I'd be interested to know your reasoning about why she's not a 5w4. I'm keen to learn and still getting a good grasp on the many combinations. I based my opinion on the fact that she speaks like a friend of mine who is estp and I thought 5w4. However she could be another enneagram as well.. 7w8 perhaps. The 7 does integrate to a 5 when healthy and my friend is what I would call healthy/ self-actualised, a leader in her community. So there's that. It's just my son is esfp 7w8 and he is more zainy and crazy and manipulative but he's 3 years old so...and he's sp dominant which add a whole different twist.