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Last edited by Dee; 02-26-2009 at 02:25 AM.
You seem more INFp than ESTp so far.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
The Reinin dichotomies shouldn't be used in isolation, although if, as a whole, most of them point in one direction, they are very reliable. But negativism, in itself, I wouldn't use to rule out any type.Originally Posted by dee
Being static, though, is very significant -- can you elaborate more on that?
The story about INFps or other Ni types "not being late" is a distortion.Originally Posted by dee
Well why do you see yourself as an extrovert?Originally Posted by dee
I don't mean anything bad with this comment , but your understanding of the functions is a bit "raw", apparently.Originally Posted by dee
A Si role would rather mean that you're perfectly able - with some effort - to focus on what's in front of you and physical details, which include those related to looks etc, but that your natural inclination is to focus on your own inner images and thoughts and not care so much about that. A Te PoLR is not necessarily visible in not being efficient and productive, especially in a job you know well.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
You kind of sound and look ISFp to me. Even though this might contradict what you say about being the most efficient, I don't think that it's strictly related to Te PoLR. You also seem to have studied a lot socionics before jumping in with your type.
Ezra, this is a good example for you
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Yeah well, it was just an overall impression really of you being ISFp. I'm not saying you're lazyOriginally Posted by dee
If you really feel you are aristocratic, then yes by all means ESTp is likely.
ps. Ezra is a guy
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Fine -- I don't see that as good indication one way or the other, honestly.Originally Posted by dee
That may be a sound of extroversion, it may be also a sign of low Ni -- the outside world thing, I mean.Originally Posted by dee
That might be a sign of extroversion.Originally Posted by dee
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
ENTp
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I think your type is right, because you seem to know everything well for being a newcomer.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
If you're using Model A, it's not possible to have extroverted functions as both role and PoLR - one is introverted and the other extroverted. What makes you say that your Ne is role and Fe is PoLR? (Btw, I don't see you as having Fe as PoLR at all, if anything probably ego, but it would still be cool to hear why you think it is.)Originally Posted by dee
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Christ you are exhaustive. You have said so much, and yet I still don't feel think I know anything about you.
If ESTp makes sense to you, go with it. If you discover aspects of your life that don't mesh with that, you can always change your diagnosis accordingly. Now go do your thing or whatever it is ESTps do.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Fo'shizzle dawg.Originally Posted by Baby
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Well then, fwiw I really think you're Fe ego. Even this statement seems to me to be searching for Ti (I think). You seem incredibly concerned with keeping others' moods elevated, too (Fe). You don't seem very forceful or strong-willed (Se), either, although it's unclear whether you want to be or don't care. INFp would fit your described relations pretty well, and you resemble one of my former friends who was INFp I think. So, that's my guess for now.Originally Posted by dee
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Like Elro, I'm convinced of Fe ego.
ok, that's consistent with extroversion and sensing.Originally Posted by dee
ISFp is also a negativist declarer. (Why do you think Ne role?)Originally Posted by dee
That's a pretty good argument for Si. I think you could be either ESFj or ISFp, but most likely ESFj.Originally Posted by Baby
For some reason, this thread reminds me of XoX.
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INTp
sx/sp
That could have more to do with Fe than Ne, really, and it doesn't exactly fit Ne Role. (I do it too.) This is a pretty good description of what Ne Role is supposed to look like:Originally Posted by dee
Based on what you have said, I think you value Ne. You seem quite comfortable with it. From your sig: "please participate in typing me. even the wildest ideas are accepted." At the very least, that rules out Ne Role.Originally Posted by wikisocion.org
What I was getting at is that Ni types tend to see Si data as random and disconnected.thehotelambush:
I don't really see how it is a good argument for Si in Ego.Laughing That's a pretty good argument for Si. I think you could be either ESFj or ISFp, but most likely ESFj.
Your relationship with your mother could very well support INFp. Though I have similar problems with my father, who is my mirror. It could just be a parental thing.Also, my mother is ESFj and she said once that we're of the same type. We also understand each other really well, but does what I said earlier about her, namely that "I must always keep my vigilance not to let her start controlling me all over. I also see her as very simple and too chaotic, worrying too much and generally being like a baby" support the hypothesis? As for ISFp, I know a couple and I could see some similarities between me and them. But can't I see similarities with really any type?!
Yeah, this supports weak Ti.Even in the descriptions, for example, I can identify with like loooads from each type.
Let's say you have to choose between IP and EJ. Which suits you best?
(Descriptions here.)
I'm not quite sure this is a strong argument for dee being Si.Originally Posted by thehotelambush
This seems stronger, though:
Originally Posted by thehotelambushOr weak descriptions.Originally Posted by thehotelambush
dee, have you looked into quadras any? If so, which ones do you identify with?
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
You sound IP, but just for completeness what about EJ?Originally Posted by dee
It sounds like you're Merry (Ti & Fe, which makes sense). Do you think you like Alpha Quadra or Beta Quadra better overall?There's how I relate to different quadra values:
Alpha: Fe ++/-, Si +, Ne +/-, Ti ++/-
Beta: Fe ++/-, Ni +, Se --/+, Ti ++/-
Gamma: Te --/+, Se --/+, Fi ----/+, Ni +
Delta: Te --/+, Si +, Ne +/-, Fi ----/+
In sentence form, alpha is quite alright, actually, they are all happy, silly and playful in a comfortable atmosphere, maybe a little too untouched by harsh reality though, which is just an impression and perhaps the latter is not so. Beta is extremely realistic, but sort of about the only "alive" people in the world of gray plastic. Gamma is alright, except ISFj might be too judgemental and ILI of too much opinion about themselves. Delta is super, especially the ENFp when in the bubbly mode, but their Fi can be too touchy I find and ISTps are like the most boring and stubborn people who you must always be nice to in fear of them turning resentful, don't give a damn about you and to any help you give them in the form of advice act as if I spoke to the wall, meaning ignoring it.
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Hmm, Te.Originally Posted by dee
Do you see the irony in that?Don't have a large experience sample base for this, but I imagine I could get a little edgy with a non-ending idea stream.Based on what you have said, I think you value Ne. You seem quite comfortable with it.
I think we can rule out any rational type.
he decided to keep it red and took it offlineOriginally Posted by Herzy
That is taken out of context. (Or just wrong.)Originally Posted by dee
It's still indicative of your personality, though what you're saying makes it sound more Ti-seeking than Ne-valuing.Also, the "signature situation" I cannot call TIM-related because the situation is such that I am just trying to bring up as much oppinion and information from people as possible, so that to me/others, my TIM will be apparent immediately or after some contemplation.
Yes. If you are, this is great. This will help me a lot in finding out if I'm ENTj or not. Come on guys, confirm dee as ENTj. I know one thing, dee. You're not ESTp. You don't have the air of ESTp. And you're not ENFj either. You're not over-dramatic enough. (I'm just confirming what you're not from my experience of the few types' descriptions I know concerning socionics.)
Yeah, it is pretty funny sometimes.Originally Posted by ScarlettLux
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Sorry, I don't think it's likely. Relates to Alpha and Beta way more than Gamma/Delta, and seems clearly Fe.Originally Posted by Ezra
This is true. Se-dominants sort of have this presence... anyway, they don't bend over backwards to compensate for others like dee seems to do (which I'm associating with Fe right now).Originally Posted by Ezra
I wouldn't rule it out for dee for that reason. However, dee does seem to be IP temperament, so I lean more towards INFp.Originally Posted by Ezra
dee, why do you think you are ENTj?
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Spontaneous? Showing lots of positive emotion? Smiling a lot? Sorry, but you need to go back to the drawing board.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Well, that won't do you much good; I've always claimed that I think Strat's descriptions are crap. And from what I've seen of you so far, I can't possibly trust your typing skills.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Having clearly demonstrated your lack of knowledge of Socionics, I don't think you're in any position to be trying to evaluate ANYONE in terms of typing skill.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
And I will.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
yeah you do come across as entj honestly.
but you VI just like the ESTp picture that's on socionics.org under SLE
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Originally Posted by Ezra
YOU HAVE BEEN HERE ON THE FORUM FOR 2 FUCKING DAYS AND YOU'RE ALREADY SPREADING YOUR TYPINGS LIKE GOD. FOR CHIRST SAKE GO PLAY FOOTBALL WITH YOUR MATES.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
What the fuck, Gilly? He's right.Originally Posted by Gilly
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Ha shit! Yes. dee, pm me. I want to talk to a ENTj and compare lives. I've already got in touch with Kriistina, an ENFj, and I'm talking to her too about ENFj.Originally Posted by dee
Watch out, dee. VI method is crap, especially when a pic doesn't accompany a description of the person.Originally Posted by dee
Yeah, you're no ESTp.Originally Posted by dee
In fact, if anything I admire about you, it's the way you're good at keeping the peace - you know how to calm people down, and you know how to show people you respect them.
Originally Posted by FDG
FDG, when will you learn? I am confident to the point of audacity. I am not a commoner - I do not play football with cretins in my shitty little uncultured town. My social circle (of what, maybe three people?) is inclined to watch films, walk everywhere and admire the place, trade in games at Blockbuster, download GBs of music and exchange it, walk to 'big Tesco' and buy cereal, like Weetabix Minis (oh that delicious choco crunch), talk about our relationships with each other, and solve all our flaws of ourselves and in our relationships.
Don't worry about it - it would cost me a fortune. Does he have an email address, facebook or something? Even better, get him on this forum.Originally Posted by dee
I think, though, that some people are just sooo obviously a particular type, like that guy, for example.[/quote]Originally Posted by Ezra
Yeah but he wouldn't be ENTj if it weren't for the fact that his character is like that.
Okay. You seem to have trust in VI.
You know, dee, I love this. I love being on this forum and figuring out people's types with others, and doing something productive, but then, when the search is over, I guess I'll go onto something else, maintaining only a slight interest in socionics. Then again, there's so much theory to learn it'll keep me occupied forever.
Sigh. STOP BEING SO FUCKING POMPOUS! You understand how you come across? It's painful to the eye! Painful. You're not doing anything in terms either of getting your type right, or creating a great atmosphere, or adding anything to the forum, or not being a commner. You can be a fucking great person and humble, too, especially if you're a skinny 17-years-old.Originally Posted by Ezra
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit