ESFp's are not on this forum because typically they are out in the real world. Drinking lots of alcohol, dancing, and having buckets of sex.
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Or at least they want to be...LoL I'm SEE / ESFp...new here so I'm not sure what you want to know when you say 'tell me about them'.
When you say 'casual interactions' what kind exactly? I can be very businesslike when need be...I am a college professor. But in a casual meet where its not so 'formal' I may tend to be somewhat more bubbly and maybe a tad of what some would call 'flirty' especially if its the opposite sex. BUT---if I am already in a bad mood, I might just get to the point with no frills and no bullshiting around.
Teddybeanz
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
I changed it to my more 'teacher-y' looking one. You like the other one better? The one in the pink cowgirl hat was actually taken while I was partying in the Stockyards in FortWorth after we had gone to an educators seminar in Wichita Falls, TX. I had to crop it to take my other instructor out of the pic. I know the guy who took it thought we were either drunk, stoned or both...lol
Fun times...hehe
Teddybeanz
My hubby is SEE and he wouldn't "waste" his time here. He spends a lot of time on Sports sites (which is so ultimately valuable to him.)
hi crazymaisy!
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It's Binky bitch.
See not the unsmiling lips and icy eyes,
And hear not the silence after.
Look instead as the mime hypnotizes
And listen to the laughter.
i find it hard to picture myself lighting up a room......>_>
maybe when im hyper....definitely make the air kind of tense and it actually ends up causing tense people to get more loose. its as if they are afraid of embarrassing themselves and then i come in and just flat out embarass myself and laugh about it and so they end up relaxing....heh
but i mean...i dont think thats considered "lighting up a room"...
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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i'm interested in this whole subjective light / dark thing ...
like, i saw an old friend the other day .. he seemed dark when i saw him .. but it's like he lit up threw interaction.
generally the people that appear most light to me tend to be annoying, and constantly kind of explain themselves...
like if they're late, thye won't just act as if it's no big deal, instead tehy'll make it a big deal just in case you're bothered about it, and explain and reason and blah blah ... so that their lateness isn't as annoying as their explaining.
whereas the darkest people are really grumpy, and complain, and are crtical, and pessimistic and so forth.
but hye, hangon, thats' not as light as it gets .. some girls .. they're really light, nad they can't stop moving, and it's like they'll kind of flirt with everyone but it's like in a way that seems like it doesn't mean anything, and then they'll kind of explode into these bursts of interaction, and pull other people in and so forth, and then you realise that it's all to do with them.
they're the kind of girls, that wear a revealing top, then say how everyone's always looking at their breasts,.
From my Dual SEE/ILI relationship standpoint I can say that this is so VERY true. It's awesome, no other way to put it.
For instance I am just me at home, and he comes in. It's not a "love" thing. It's a lightening of myself. It's a super high. One look at it is that it's hope for what could come, he might talk to me and get in [my mind] deeper.
Now it most often goes the other way, and then I feel black towards him
I found this picture on reddit:
The saddest ESFj
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Hi Gamma! I am thinking I might be an SEE, BUT I am not sure just yet. I identify a lot with SEE descriptions, yadda yadda. However I think descriptions can be misleading so I'm gonna ask some SPECIFIC QUESTIONS and hope for some AMAZING ANSWERS. Ready?
Okay, so I am pretty sure I'm an extravert as I meet the "qualifications" or whatever in that I get my stimulation from things outside of myself. I also love people and am very good with them. I make friends easily, I can talk easily and breezily with strangers, etc etc etc. Does this sound like SEE? What types does it sound most like to you guys?
Do SEEs always go out and party? I ask because yeah I do like to get dressed up and go out and party, but not like every day or anything, and now that I'm getting older - lol @ "older" = mid-late 20s! - I don't even go out every weekend anymore Is this just growing up, or is it indicatve of not being SEE? I like to spend time by myself sometimes, and even though my attention span sucks I do spend a fair amount of time reading about things I am interested in, at least for the moment they hold my interest.
Are SEEs *always* reckless? I can be - oh, I definitely can be - but not always by any means. I am impulsive but have learned to curb that somewhat.
Are SEEs ever intelligent? LOL that sounds like such a stupid question - hopefully it is!! - but the stereotype in socionics seems to be that SF types and especially SEEs are dumb. But there've gotta be some smart ones, right? If anyone here knows very smart SEEs, could you please give some kind of description of how they come off to you, what makes you sure they're SEE, what they're interested in if they are highly educated, etc?
Are SEEs bossy? I guess I can be, but overall I don't think I am a very bossy person. And I always ask nicely. Well almost always. Is bossiness or demandingness an SEE trademark?
Please help me out here, and if you have more information or stories or anything that'd be great! Even if I turn out to be not SEE it'll still be interesting to learn more about the type and the stereotypes that go with it. Thanks!!
If your ideal of a mate is lazy, disorganized, sarcasting, unenthusiastic, critical, complaining, rarely if ever sharing his imagination yet spending most of the time daydreaming, know-it-all, assuming you don't care for him if you haven't mentioned it recently but rarely saying anything of the sort himself, and always telling you why whatever idea you have at the moment is foolish and will lead to inevitable doom unless abandoned immediately, you just might be SEE.
Now that we're done with this part, I'd like to add that if you expect a welcome hug, or even a bland rejection, you'd be probably better off in another quadra.
Getting what they want is a trademark of SEE.Are SEEs bossy? I guess I can be, but overall I don't think I am a very bossy person. And I always ask nicely. Well almost always. Is bossiness or demandingness an SEE trademark?
My SEE brother in law has a double major in Philosophy and Chemistry and is a very good political debater. No contradictions in there whatsoever.Are SEEs ever intelligent?
ps. welcome to the forum
Sup. You sound extroverted.
Okay, good stuff. Because I am somewhat intelligent, I mean not in a Steven Hawking way, but I was always in gifted classes in school, and I am planning to get my PhD studying communication, which incidentally is how I found my way to socionics
Thanks for taking the time to respond, Jarno. Hope to hear more input later as you seem to be a real, live ILI :wink:
Do you like to lick other girls pussies and suck on boobs? All SEEs do. That is a sure way to tell.
I don't know that many SEEs, but some. And I don't know them that well. Here's two:
One is an opera singer. Very outgoing and full of energy. Often provoking in a charming way. Cannot sit still. Likes to talk alot, but I've never heard him actually discuss anything.
One has worked in graphic design, but then she quit. Knows lots and lots of people, always up to date with what's going on. Getting to know new people and facts about people and their relations at an impressive speed. When she's hanging out with a person she doesn't only get to know that person, but also that person's husband, friends, friends of friends etc. etc. Then she talks about them all. I don't know how she does it.
I was told by an ENFP-Ne guy:"you light up the room." Okay..... I was bringing him something to help him he needed for a project. I found it worthwhile (Fi) because it was for a grade, and I was happy I had the resource (he couldn't find any other sources). I strode over to him, and he just looked transfixed. I'm an awkward, intense woman, so it was weird that he thought I lit up the room. I'm thinking it was the rushing in to rescue him that looked so alive???
Last edited by nanashi; 09-13-2011 at 05:05 AM. Reason: incorrect typing of guy in story as ESFX
My really great SEE friend, who is a carbon copy of Dophin, is not at all like the the other SEE I know, and I think mostly, because they were raised in a different environment and have different values.
All of them are "traditional" and hardly talk about sex and physical interactions, I find this to be true about their mates, INTp's as well. They all love hosting parties and gatherings, integrating people into their hospitable settings. What they all get upset about is when their loved ones or people they expect certain behavior from do not meet their expectations, then they get easily emotional about them saying things like "I didn't expect her to be this way towards me" or "She's using me and I'm tired of it"; this is where we differ, I don't feel these ways when I do things for people or with people. I don't get emotional when people don't meet my expectations of their behaviors/actions/words/requests/ or anything for that matter.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html