LOL, well done sirOriginally Posted by Whoobie77
LOL, well done sir
INTp Hugh Grant - ENFj Orpah Winfrey
That was extremely awkward. Could be a legit example.
That's so funny you say that was awkward because for me it read as authentic and not really awkward at all.
Well, not awkward for him maybe. What type are you?
I never saw it as awkward for anybody besides Oprah. The audience gave real laughs whilst Oprah had that shit "erm mer gerd" grin on. I do know that Grant went to Oxford Uni, so he's a pretty smart guy and it looks like he knew exactly what impact his words were having.
Oh God... it's like he can't help being offensive. However, I wouldn't rule out a F type just because somebody's offensive. Sometimes, Beta NFs can have a deliberate, abrasive, offensive personality. Or the F type could have asperger's or autism and inadvertently say offensive things.
I would see ESFp for Oprah though...
His negging game is strong.
The whole thing all seemed Fi to me, Grant and Oprah. They were having a dark moment, very typical delta banter. If Oprah is EIE, then she is not at all getting to him in that conversation. Seems like they have that understanding. Crossing boundries, going further then an NT or ST would like, but NFs are ok with this.
Yeah, I would also think IEE. IEEs often show that kind of negativity when they're getting annoyed, like rolling their eyes. I think the fact that he's so comfortable with showing negativity might be Fi. He's just not a particularly nice IEE. Also his sardonic and sarcastic humor has got to do with the fact that he's British.
WHY DID YOU MAKE OPRAH MY MIRROR.
I'm sorry truck. Noone made Oprah your mirror. She was born that way.
Wow, I didn't know hugh grant was an ILI. That seems like a pretty spot on typing for him and a good find.
I offended my wife today with a sarcastic remark that was meant to be funny and instructive. I cannot seem to help it. We were coming up with ideas for remodeling the house and once I have an idea that fits it seems to be the only idea I want to pursue. I'm unfortunately too dismissive of other people's ideas once I form my own. It is best to separate my analytical abilities from my personal life.
Come now. What was the remark?
Well, I suggested that we remove a bad section of the house and she later stood in the room that I suggested tearing down and she said after we tore it down that we should build a mud room with a door and a stairwell, and I said, "You mean we should just leave it the way it is."
It was suppose to be funny dammit! hehe.....oh well, you win some, you lose some.
WTF is a mud room? Lol
A room, usually small, which is common in rural homes; a place to remove your wet or muddy clothes/shoes as you enter the home.
So an anteroom.
I think this is an example of fe Polr.
So he is an SLI? The only other type I could actually see is not Fe polr, but Fe DS/HA. Something Si infantile about this vid.
Yes, probably SLI or LII, not necessarily Fe polr
I think it'd be hard to be conclusive based just on this video. I do kind of have a type for him that I mentioned elsewhere, but that was based on other stuff about him. ...yeah.
Well I watched it a second time and I think I'm understanding what you meant by fe polr.
Lol, just like @Reyne, I too laughed and felt like someone had filmed me when I watched this video!
I'm a little ashamed of these silly moments in my life where I know I'm being a bit childish.
Mostly these moments occur in private or in front of those I like and trust so no lasting scars, just the occaisional view maybe that I'm being a little immature in the situation.
The problem of havingas a PoLR is that it isn't automatically a bad thing. I could argue that having any PoLR function is not automatically bad but
The absolute lack of "empathy" we tend to display in a given situation can and often does lead to some very comical results if most everyone in the room is expecting some level of
Thankfully, they can't, so everyone laughs and you laugh along thanking god that they didn't see through you and thus shove a knife into your left kidney like so many special forces people have to their enemies. If ya know why they do that then ya get a gold star for proudly both knowing morbid things and broadcasting it to everyone with ears to hear. A favorite thing for those with
Well, if a Fe-PoLR type does or says something socially offensive or cause a social gaffe, then the IEI (probably SEIs too) probably finds it funny and laughs at you. This is because sometimes the XEIs "ignore" the Fe rules to solve a problem creatively. So if a Fe-PoLR type says "I don't have to act in a socially acceptable way!", then the XEI might see a point in that, and may even adopt the same attitude himself, despite the fact that he knows and understands the rules of Fe.
But I mean, it will definitely help if one has the knowledge of Socionics.
Yes, absolutely. I have seen this before. It plays in well with their duals.
Sounds like the stuff my grandpa says. I wonder if he's the same type. What my grandpa never realized and never will is that people don't think he's as clever as he belives himself to be, and they try to get away from him, and the people who get along with him are the exact same way. Legends in their own minds. He borrows quips, quotes, jokes and never deviates from the same ones and laughs at them every time. I also wonder if he's on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum.
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Oprah is IEE. Uncertain about Grant but ILI seems about right.
Just by reading this thread I would say that insults are best served as ambiguous remarks (= usually drives ESIs insane).
It is funny though that I'm capable of those kinds of things that were included in examples just to elevate atmosphere.
Example
Fe-PoLR: You know certain kinds of people reproduce by accident and their offspring...
Me: You can always say to a student when he/she makes a mistake that he/she is a mistake.
I totally silenced him while everyone else were laughing their asses off.
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I wonder if Fe-polr is being mistaken for Fi-polr? Something else? While socially inappropriate comments may be indicative of Fe-polr, I wouldn't think that being a dick necessarily constitutes what Fe-polr is about. It may be more about 1) the general inability to create warm, loving, friendly, environments to attract singing rainbow unicorns and smiling dancing cupcakes 2) the social awkwardness at how to respond to positive emotions 3) the lack of emotional range of expressiveness that most people take for granted, leading to further social awkwardness and misunderstanding 4) monotone voice, just to name a few.
Plus Fe-polr explains the absolute extroverted delight or anger outbursts we have on occasion.
The delight is very adorable. The anger ---> yes, also very good - make yourselves heard.
Yes, exactly. And not being enthused, or even feigning enthusiasm for lame, inauthentic group activities. I think Fe HA is the worst type of Fe. So clumsy. Want to be liked so bad. Sickening.
Shit like this from another site. A male playing fucking hostess. Like a Tupperware party. Let's have an internet "ball". What? lol. And mentions like 50 posters to come in the thread. That is trying hard to be liked. Check out this garbage, Fe in its worst form. It's just fuckin dorky. There is no other word for it.
http://personalitycafe.com/infp-foru...ion-infps.html
An EIE can be as insensitive or shocking as anybody. I actually think they are more confident doing it than lower Fe types.
EIEs generally refuse to conform to standards of what is acceptable and nice to say. Instead, they try to express themselves spontaneously — sometimes harshly, sometimes sweetly or kindly — not because that is what other people expect of them, but because that is what they actually feel at the moment.
Tupac could be EIE and is much harsher than that old Brit.
"I ain't got no motherfucking friends, that is why I fucked your bitch you fat motherfucker." said no Fe polr type ever.
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Being a dick doesn't constitute what any function is about. To the degree we can speculate it does, Fe PoLR isnt much different from Fi PoLR when I think about being a dick, rude, etc. I've seen some awful cases of emotional abuse from XLI's, due to their PoLR. Stratiesvayka notices this too in her type descriptions for XLI's.
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Fe polr has nothing to do with being rude. xLI types are some of the most polite people.
Maybe you're thinking of metalheads? \m/\m/
My ILI friend has a pretty offensive sense of humour tbh. He actually made a joke about comparing a teacher of ours and ****** and said that ****** at least knew when to quit. (It was one of the said teacher going in turbo mode while 'teaching' case, and his humour sense is made of pretty much things like this.) He was pretty fascinated with this joke for a while actually. He also likes Filthy Frank and memes in general.
There is a nihilistic absurdism vibe to him, most likely 5w4 Ni subtype. It is also pretty fun to watch how he doesn't even realize just how much the EII in the group gets annoyed by him constantly picking on her, (he is actually trying to pick lightheartedly in a joking way) which really is a bad decision as she is also a 4w5 and seems to reinforce her sense of "I am always the one others in the group pick to mock" though I think someone actually told him since he doesn't act as 'annoying' towards her anymore.
Delta NF, or maybe Delta in general, cannot take jokes. I am always "poking at people". Testing their boundaries. But I am used to social environments where everybody picks on each other. It's spread around to everyone. May be a Beta or Merry thing but I can't be friends with somebody who I can't pick on basically. And my ribbing is usually light hearted too like you mentioned about the ILI. And the EII can't even take that. I often end up offending Delta types. Delta NF women particularly. lol. I like to bust their balls. The fact that it irritates them just makes me want to do it more.
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