Joy's E-Type - maybe enneagram isn't total bullshit?

[Joy]

These results would suggest Fe > Fi for you.

[normal]

These results would suggest Fe > Fi for you.

I made again the test that you lend me the other day, but now thinking in the same way as I did the last test. I'm not lying, actually, I want to believe there's something else ahead this test.
7 SO still second, so I don't want to discard things to quickly.

You are most likely a type 3 (the Achiever) with 2 wing

Sexual variant


Type 3 SX
Type 7 SO
Type 8 SO
Type 2 SP
Type 4 SX
Type 6 SX
Type 1 SO
Type 9 SX
Type 5 SO

[aka-kitsune]

I love the Enneagram.


Go back a year in time and ask me if I love the Enneagram, I'll say, "FUCK YOUUU!!"

Not really, but I hated it for several years due to the poor quality of similarminds.com and my apparent inability to utilize google.com.

So funny! I could tell you stories about similarminds.com! Really, such a lot of hooey there.

My enneagram "compatriots" and I originally met on the EIDB (Enneagram Institute's db), then left en-masse when the EI became snotty and installed "nannies" to oversee that no curse words were ever used, no feelings were ever hurt and no offense was ever taken. They even became sticklers that ONLY enneagram-related questions were allowed on the main board. Anything else was "Chat". We formed our own board elsewhere.

At any rate, to the original point... similarminds is run by a 5w6 literalist named Tim (known by us enneagrammites as "deras"). Many of us NFs have had loads of fun railing against his rampant NT 5-ism (his barely concealed belief that 5s are the best type to be and all others should be consciously evolving towards that goal) and poking holes in his often simplistic and sloppy logic. Many of his enneagram test questions are just ludicrous...

[aka-kitsune]

btw, which test was the one you were telling us to take? You linked to both of them.

Usually I suggest the one with instinctual variants. Gives you the extra dimension.

[Khamelion]

I'm not so sure I'm a social variant actually....need more info.

[Gilly]

Please don't say that just because you think it's about conformity, because it's not.

[Khamelion]

I was thinking about one-on-one-ness vs. groups actually...

[FDG]

I was thinking about one-on-one-ness vs. groups actually...

In my opinion you're either sp or sx first

[Gilly]

sx/so, IMO

[Khamelion]

I was thinking about one-on-one-ness vs. groups actually...

In my opinion you're either sp or sx first

prob. so/sx/sp or sx/so/sp


i hardly fit self preservation

[Khamelion]

At any rate, to the original point... similarminds is run by a 5w6 literalist named Tim (known by us enneagrammites as "deras"). Many of us NFs have had loads of fun railing against his rampant NT 5-ism (his barely concealed belief that 5s are the best type to be and all others should be consciously evolving towards that goal) and poking holes in his often simplistic and sloppy logic. Many of his enneagram test questions are just ludicrous...

[FDG]

I was thinking about one-on-one-ness vs. groups actually...

In my opinion you're either sp or sx first

prob. so/sx/sp or sx/so/sp


i hardly fit self preservation

sx so then, i can't see you as a social first type at all (actually, I can't see any social frist type spending much time on this forum)

[Joy]

Yeah, sx/so makes sense. I can't see any sp in you.

[meatburger]

Im scared of the Ennergram. I dont know anything about it but theres 18 Ennergram types and only 16 in socionics? Eww something tells me that would screw with my brain. I just dont see how my understanding of socionics could mesh with it. I do like how it has the health levels etc. Thats my favorite part.

[Joy]

Not everyone agrees with those health levels though, I guess. (And there are 108 types if you count the stacks. But then again, there are 32 Socionics types if you count subtypes.)

[Gilly]

48 with split subs

[Khamelion]

I was thinking about one-on-one-ness vs. groups actually...

In my opinion you're either sp or sx first

prob. so/sx/sp or sx/so/sp


i hardly fit self preservation

sx so then, i can't see you as a social first type at all (actually, I can't see any social frist type spending much time on this forum)

I am in interested in people and how they work, I use socionics frequently...at least whatever I've seemed to learn from it...and it helps in dealing with many friendships, family issues, and relationships in general. So thats why I stick around...I'm still learning things from the community AND the actual information here...


plus some extenuating circumstances

[Gilly]

No.

[normal]

I have a question.
Can a person be ESFj with 3w2 sx/so??

[Joy]

definitely!

[normal]

That's good. I'm not saying that I'M ESFj, but lastly I found myself more inclined to ESFx. I have the same trouble of the 3 type about the image and 'Know Who I Am', And my first though was ESFj. I dunno about SEE, because they have EP Temperament and it's seems they are generally 7.

[FDG]

I was thinking about one-on-one-ness vs. groups actually...

In my opinion you're either sp or sx first

prob. so/sx/sp or sx/so/sp


i hardly fit self preservation

sx so then, i can't see you as a social first type at all (actually, I can't see any social frist type spending much time on this forum)

I am in interested in people and how they work, I use socionics frequently...at least whatever I've seemed to learn from it...and it helps in dealing with many friendships, family issues, and relationships in general. So thats why I stick around...I'm still learning things from the community AND the actual information here...


plus some extenuating circumstances

Hey I didn't mean it in a bad way at all. I think free time spent her is very valuable. It's just that social first people usually have their group of friends they stick around pretty much all the time.

[Ezra]

I have a question.
Can a person be ESFj with 3w2 sx/so??

Absolutely. ESE is the most likely type for 2w3s and 3w2s.

[Khamelion]

Hey I didn't mean it in a bad way at all. I think free time spent her is very valuable. It's just that social first people usually have their group of friends they stick around pretty much all the time.

I do, 90% of my attention goes towards the chosen few I have kept, and the aquaintances I enjoy the company of on some occasions. I often get on the computer with these friends to show them socionics related things. I'm with my boyfriend a lot, and we spend time together doing seperate things such as me on the computer while he reads.

I have little friends in the place I'm currently living in, just those aquaintances that I only like to see every so often. They are relativly unsatisfying...it isn't their fault or anything. So I'm at home, work(socialize city), online with my boyfriend (we play WoW together when appart) or with those few friends.


And not to mention, I'm very selective about who becomes a close friend of mine. So there are few.

[normal]

These results would suggest Fe > Fi for you.

I made again the test that you lend me the other day, but now thinking in the same way as I did the last test. I'm not lying, actually, I want to believe there's something else ahead this test.
7 SO still second, so I don't want to discard things to quickly.

You are most likely a type 3 (the Achiever) with 2 wing

Sexual variant


Type 3 SX
Type 7 SO
Type 8 SO
Type 2 SP
Type 4 SX
Type 6 SX
Type 1 SO
Type 9 SX
Type 5 SO

I've quoted myself because I read about 3 type with 2 wings sx variant. I want to know if it is possible with this result I could be 3w2 sx/sp (SP because the type 2 SP)? Or still be 3w2 sx without another variant?

if that's true, then there's a contradiction.

"Sexual/Self-pres

This subtype can appear almost Four-like."

However, in the test's result that I've quote, I've got 3w2, so... WTF! O_o Can I be 3w2 looking like a 4?

Anyway, if all this result approach is purely bulls***, I've got another's result from other test and I got the same type (along with 9, 6 and 7). This is not coincidence. I believe there's some connection with myself and this type; the problem is, that I cannot see it at all.

[aka-kitsune]

I've quoted myself because I read about 3 type with 2 wings sx variant. I want to know if it is possible with this result I could be 3w2 sx/sp (SP because the type 2 SP)? Or still be 3w2 sx without another variant?

if that's true, then there's a contradiction.

"Sexual/Self-pres

This subtype can appear almost Four-like."

However, in the test's result that I've quote, I've got 3w2, so... WTF! O_o Can I be 3w2 looking like a 4?

Anyway, if all this result approach is purely bulls***, I've got another's result from other test and I got the same type (along with 9, 6 and 7). This is not coincidence. I believe there's some connection with myself and this type; the problem is, that I cannot see it at all.

The instinctual results (sx/sp) apply to the main type, not the wing. It's your priority of instinctual variants -- sx, backed by sp, then so. The combination of sx variant and sp make the 3w2 appear less outgoing (typical of other variant combos), perhaps more subdued, akin to a type 4. Perhaps this manifests in softer emotionality, effusiveness, creativity, elegance.

[normal]

I've quoted myself because I read about 3 type with 2 wings sx variant. I want to know if it is possible with this result I could be 3w2 sx/sp (SP because the type 2 SP)? Or still be 3w2 sx without another variant?

if that's true, then there's a contradiction.

"Sexual/Self-pres

This subtype can appear almost Four-like."

However, in the test's result that I've quote, I've got 3w2, so... WTF! O_o Can I be 3w2 looking like a 4?

Anyway, if all this result approach is purely bulls***, I've got another's result from other test and I got the same type (along with 9, 6 and 7). This is not coincidence. I believe there's some connection with myself and this type; the problem is, that I cannot see it at all.

The instinctual results (sx/sp) apply to the main type, not the wing. It's your priority of instinctual variants -- sx, backed by sp, then so. The combination of sx variant and sp make the 3w2 appear less outgoing (typical of other variant combos), perhaps more subdued, akin to a type 4. Perhaps this manifests in softer emotionality, effusiveness, creativity, elegance.

Any socionics type related with 3w2 sx/sp?

[Ezra]

Any socionics type related with 3w2 sx/sp?

I already answered that question for you:

I have a question.
Can a person be ESFj with 3w2 sx/so??

Absolutely. ESE is the most likely type for 2w3s and 3w2s.