Hey. I think I owe you another apology. I should have used a different tone in the typing thread and I'm sorry I didn't.
That's ok. Sorry for bothering you. Have a good one.
Interesting how Beta NFs make you start to see things from a more narrow POV, I could see that. It does seem like it may be more natural for you to be conscientious, based on childhood. You might have adapted to a less LSI-agreeable family environment. Man, being stuck in your PoLR does sound really draining. Well it may not be a lack of self-awareness, perhaps you've spent years trying to develop that side of yourself, and it's pretty normal to take your most ingrained skills for granted and not really think about them. When I'm dating another sensor....I just feel impatient? Irritated? Like, a part of me is being forced to bend that doesn't want to. Both the LSE and the SEE I dated made me feel that way - the SEE was the most uncomfortable. Thanks for what you said about my dad. And yeah, I'm sure you'd have more insight than what he described, you do work on your intuition, and you've been learning this system for a long time. Do I get intuitive pulls...yes I do, if I really stop and pay attention to that part of me, but that's about as telling as it would be for an intuitive to say they often get hungry or feel the need to use the toilet. We are all human beings, and we have both sides - physical and spiritual. You seem like you want me to be Beta NF (trust me, can't help you there). I feel like I've given you plenty of information throughout all our conversations to show my non-Ni-ness, and if you still don't think so, you're not really listening. Sorry, but I don't wanna talk with you about this subject anymore. I hope you're having a good day, and that you get the work done that you wanted to. Peace~
I usually don't display Se on the internet, but after I read silke's post, mobilizing Ni kicked in and I started to see things from a more narrow POV. This isn't new for me; Beta NFs tend to have this effect on me where I see things from a new angle and become compelled. Concerning leading: I think I get anxious about others taking the lead, but I hadn't really thought about it before. I'm usually kind of reserved until I know that I like someone, at which point I show interest. I'm really incompetent in some ways - I lack conscientiousness, so the LSI description sounded really off when I read it. But when I was younger, I was more conscientious, and I threw temper tantrums when my family (repeatedly) took me to places not on time. Part of it is also ADD. So some of my blindspots seem sensing related, but I can also become resentful if someone takes the lead for me in these areas. Overall, this is kind of shitty because it means I've been stuck in my PoLR for most of my adult life, which explains why I haven't gotten as much done. It also shows an extreme lack of self awareness on my part. I do appreciate your words, though. So, when you felt cramped, how did you respond psychologically or behaviorally? I'm wondering if my response to you was too much Ti. I get where you're dad's coming from, in a way. Even in terms of typology, I tend to aggregate the system in a way where the types start to look less differentiated. But I feel like I could have more insight - not sure. He sounds like he's proud of you. So, you said that you felt a pull towards Alice in Wonderland that seemed subconscious. Do you regularly feel like about things? Like your trip to Sedona... Did you have a pull towards that? The symbolism in astrology... why is personal growth important to you? Do you have a subconscious pull toward astrology? What about to certain people, like me?
I think he was strong Ti-subtype most of my childhood, though he seems to be getting more Se nowadays. This is actually something I've thought through before, when considering SEI/ESE. I don't feel like LSIs and I have a relationship on an 'equal playing field'. But I've always admired and adored IEEs, which would be semidual for SEI, but < ESE on the benefit ring. My dad and I DID NOT get along. Nowadays it's a little better, since I'm an adult and can make my own decisions. It's too personal to go into more detail. The other LSIs I've met don't really interest me much, no offense to them...I can see how they are impressive people in their own right: diligent, disciplined, competent in practial/real-life survival skills, reliable, loyal, solid work-ethic, etc. But I don't care much, about any of those things....I'm just a caregiver who likes whimisical childlikes, lol If it is true that you are LSI, it's impressive how much you've developed your PoLR function. It is possible, too...I've seen my dad develop his, over the years. Ironically, he always admired Weird Al Yankovic. I guess you'd know if your Ne is natural or practiced, and you'd know if you'd really rather be using Se to get through life.
I'll get back to this tomorrow. In the mean time, I just had a thought - what if this is semiduality? How are you with your dad? What subtype is he? Have a good night, Xaiviay.
Lol, oh good. Yeah np Umm, no, honestly from your conversations with me, I haven't felt like you've been displaying much , and you seemed to help me theorize about different ideas all the time. I did feel like you didn't really appreciate me leading the conversation, which was a little discouraging, but I chalked it up to DCNH (at first) and NTR-things. This is when you said we weren't dualizing. Then I backed off a little bit...decided I didn't care if we kept talking or not, so I stopped putting as much energy into the conversations...but then you kept helping me theorize and analyze things...and it felt pretty much like duality. But if you really prefer to lead, I can kind of see that now...Maybe this is applicable, here: Remember how I said, with every guy besides the IEI, I've felt 'cramped' with them? The other two I've dated closely were sensors. Gulenko's caregiver description for women says 'wants a man who will accept her lead in day-to-day activities' -this is true for me. Aggressors want to lead in very blatant ways. In a relationship with two sensors (whether caregivers, aggressors, or both), both of them are trying to take the lead in directly physical, practical ways, and it feels constricting (ime). The IEI didn't do this with me, and it felt freeing by comparison. I don't really expect you to believe me, but this is one thing that's making me feel like we're not dualizing anymore - you're getting pushy (possibly Se) from my perspective, about typing me, instead of theorizing it through as thoroughly as I want. It's all good to take time figuring out your type~ You have no idea how much confusion I went through in MBTI before I finally figured it out. A year of mistypings and constant analyzing. And yeah, maybe if you identify an EIE in real life, it will turn out well. I don't think you're crap at typing people, but it takes time. Supposedly, for the intuitives, it comes more naturally...idk? The LSI that I know closely (my dad) tends not to notice subtle character differences between individuals. I tried to explain MBTI to him, and he basically told me "it's like, you see different colors of personality, where I see one big blur of the same thing" I said, "So, you really don't see people as being obviously different, in terms of their preferences/tendencies??" And he said, "psshhh, no." LOL, so, yeah Well gee I'm flattered. I like you too, as a person, from what I've seen. Regardless of what types we are And I hope you find a reliably accurate typing on your search for personal (and also inter-personal) understanding! For what that's worth..
irllol. Objectively, that's pretty funny. Thanks for clarifying. I mean, some, I think. But not intensively and frankly I don't think it clicked as well. It would be pretty funny if, all things considered, that means I'm SLE - but that would mean you're IEI and so forth. Who knows? Maybe if I identified one in real life, it would pan out better. I'm ass at typing people because it's not mapped to anything immediately evident, so good luck with that. Maybe if I made some more ass typings in the thread, I would learn from more mistakes. In any case, you'd think that you could evaluate all online interaction on the same basis - you know? Since everything's up in the ether here, it's difficult to parse out fact from what you just want to believe. I do like you, though. Why do you ask? Are you pushing in that direction? Still trying to figure things out?
Aghhh sorry, I did not mean to hit 'constructive' on your 'I'm just confused' comment D: I wanted to reply, then I realized I hit the wrong option...then I was like, 'oh no, that sounds rude and condescending " anyways, I was wanting to say, have you ever talked with EIEs, much?
The uploader's icon just makes it even better xD That poor guy, what if he just feels stuck performing for kids when he'd rather join another gig
