• Dostoyevsky, Female portrait, INFj by Beskova

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    Dostoyevsky, Female portrait, INFj by Beskova

    Quiet, affable, even gentle - such characteristics come to mind when the discussion turns to girls and women of INFj type. Their faces most often feature wide cheek-bones, an elegant chin, and iridescent eyes. Some of them continue looking youthful even as they age. Their look is usually warm, gentle, and compassionate. Unimposing, friendly smile frequently appears and lingers on their faces. This girl is always considerate, always ready to listen to others and to support them, and if needed to give repose and comfort and a breath of hope.

    Women and girls of this type are very feminine or girly - they are tactful, modest, and even a bit shy. But this doesn't imply that they lack character and are push-overs. This is completely not the case. Characteristic for them is an unobtrusive, sensitive, yet determined and stoic manner to meet all the adversity and blows of fate.

    EIIs may look fragile or loose in their body, and are sometimes a bit stoop-shouldered. They tend to dress modestly and conventionally, not trying to attract particular attention to the way they look. With age, they start to favor dark and discreet hues in clothing.

    School life allows them from their childhood years to cultivate diligence and accordance in themselves. These are quiet, assiduous girls, who do not argue with the teachers. Even if they receive an unfair grade, they do not protest, but explain such situations to themselves somehow so that the authority of teacher does not suffer.

    In the class this girl, as a rule, has a few best friends, with whom she stands during breaks near a wall and with a quiet voice and with merit she discusses all the events of school life. She does not love to gossip, and tries to evaluate everything objectively, so that there are no guilty or offended parties. This is one of the most considerate girls in the class.

    Humanitarian inclinations manifest very prominently in girls of this type. They excel at examining the events and troubles of the personal lives of the characters in literary works, which they have studied according to the class outline, and write some of the best essays in the class. Moreover, they read a lot outside of the assignments, write verses and prose, as a result of which their inner world becomes strongly romanticized. They are, in fact, some of the most dreamy girls in the class.

    While most female INFjs do not enjoy sports, they are frequently drawn to dance in their youth. This occupation corresponds to their romantic, lyricist nature. They frequently give preference to ballroom or classical dances.

    Representatives of this type almost always graduate and attend a university, since in the school they study well, frequently finishing it with high grades, and generally bestow on their teachers the most pleasant impressions with their excellent upbringing, by holding themselves with dignity and showing themselves in the best light, by their quiet voice, pleasant demeanor, and a good grasp of knowledge. It is best if this girl selects humanitarian subjects for her major.

    If you thought that girls of this type never enjoy themselves in social groups, then you are mistaken. But the group must be hers, where she is noted, where others love and value her. There this quiet flower will bloom in its entire splendor towards friendship, love, and good merriment. Understand that she will not appear in groups, where there is cursing and misuse of alcohol. She harbors very high standards for those surrounding her. The man, about whom she dreams, must be reliable, proper, sensible and confident in himself.

    When a female INFj becomes your wife, know that in your home there lives a quiet angel. However, in her a feeling of duty is so developed that she will not shun house upkeep duties (cleaning, laundry cooking, and so on). Certainly, she does not love to cook - it is not in this that she sees her vocation. But she will never leave her relatives without food. And if somebody - one of the family members so picky that they want to eat only freshly prepared food, she will cook three times a day. This is in her nature.

    She also worries about the health of her relatives, and therefore, diligently writes into her notebook, not only culinary recipes, but also herbal recipes as well as names of most important medicines, which can prove useful for various illnesses.

    Not only the husband, but also the parents from both sides, and the children will be engulfed by her warm care and loving manner of relating. She will find time for all, look for occasions to provide her help, and provide affable words appropriate for their situation. She devotes a lot of time to taking care of children. Moreover, she does this with pleasure her entire life. She knows everything about the intricate workings of their souls, about the problems of their internal world. She monitors that they study and learn well. She attempts to develop their abilities and brings them up softly, but with persistence. However, she runs into trouble trying to make serious decisions, such as when it is necessary to decide which school the child will attend or which college to select for him or her. This trouble does not manifest only in relations to children, but in other areas of her life as well. Such that it is best if others undertake such decisions for her. If you are her husband take responsibility for making major decisions in development of your family and she will with pleasure obey you.

    From real life of INFj female: "When I read E. Berne's 'Games That People Play,' I thought: which story corresponds the most to my childhood? And I remembered that when I was small, my favorite fairy tale was about the princess who never had to do anything, because by magic everything around her was automatically done. I dream precisely about this, that someone would come and do everything that is necessary, so that entire life I wouldn't have to do anything."

    Incidentally, this quiet, warm woman makes for one of the most obedient wives. She loves her family with even warming love. But watch that her emotional resources aren't spent on her girlfriends, who inadvertently will use your wife as a psychotherapist. She will never refuse them herself, of course. Out of compassion. Therefore, it will be best if you take the matter into your own hands and limit the flow of those desiring to obtain psychotherapeutic sessions and useful advice from her.

    Women of this type are well suited for any job. They are friendly and dutiful, never quarrel nor ask much for themselves, hoping that they will sooner or later be noted and rewarded. They also consciously avoid participating in intrigues, spreading rumors and talking about someone behind their back.

    They make for good teachers, editors, correctors, librarians, psychologists. They are good everywhere where it is necessary to have patience and compassion for people. They can work even as engineers, but often this kind of work does not bring them much satisfaction. However, due to their inherent stoicism, they often will not complain about this.

    See also:
    Wikisocion - EII profiles
    EII observations
    EII in pictures
    Type examples in videos
    Socionics Type Tests
    Typing Questionnaire
    (including photos and/or a video in your questionnaire thread tends to increase the number of replies and accurate typings)

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    Comments 35 Comments
    1. Cuddly McFluffles's Avatar
      Cuddly McFluffles -
      I think there is a huge difference between a woman who is "obedient" to her husband and one who concedes because she truly cares about his happiness. I have serious trouble with the whole submission thing myself, but I hate being told what to do and being expected to follow it without a convincing explanation. Also, I've lived with a controlling LxE type, one who put our spiritual growth (as he saw it) over our emotional and mental boundaries and didn't care when we tried to put our foot down. He's trying to improve, but I'm still glad to be out of there. >_> Relationships will always require some give and take, bu there is no socionic excuse for being an ass to other people, and no dual should be expected to put up with it. But... yeah. The word "obedient" really gets me.

      It's kind of a pity we don't have more LSEs around to comment, especially male ones. UDP didn't strike me as a particularly controlling sort; he seemed to talk more about how EIIs have voicing their own needs than imposing his desires on them (save in jest).

      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      lol, if it's your goal to live in a asymmetric relationship and be treated like a dog by your husband, there are certainly enough assholes around who would love to assume this role. A halfway decent guy would not even think of not letting his wife wear pants.
      I agree with most of this. I'm sure there are men who, for cultural reasons, would not want to see their wives in something or another. Heck, there are church denominations like that. However, I would hope the couple would've figured this out before marriage and worked out a solution. It's not something I'd be happy with.

      And if somebody - one of the family members so picky that they want to eat only freshly prepared food, she will cook three times a day. This is in her nature.
      Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

      I was raised in a five-person family. We foraged and enjoyed leftovers. It won't kill anybody.
    1. Radio's Avatar
      Radio -
      Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
      This is about not pushing your own will against the LSE's requests.
      Or what? The LSE will beat you into submission?
    1. 717495's Avatar
      717495 -
      This one fits me well, though leaves out stuff too http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFj-by-Beskova

      All in all, INFjs are just as common as any other type, so it's good to have a distinctive understanding between Fi and Fe. I'd recommend basically this link to know all the primary differences http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Jung/types.htm
    1. Hays's Avatar
      Hays -
      This description fits me well except for the part about being drawn to dance in their youth as it covers not loving to cook to wanting things done by magic and to begin favouring with age clothing that is dark and imperceptible, though the imperceptible part doesn't really work for me.
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      Good.
    1. Hays's Avatar
      Hays -
      Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
      Good.
      It's not good if I'm another type though for then this description must be faulty for EII or I am faulty as another type.





    1. Pa3s's Avatar
      Pa3s -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shayley View Post
      It's not good if I'm another type though for then this description must be faulty for EII or I am faulty as another type.
      "The discription is faulty if it doesn't fit me 100%"
      "I am an other type if I don't fit the description 100%"

      Seriously? I thought we got over this.
    1. Hays's Avatar
      Hays -
      Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
      "The discription is faulty if it doesn't fit me 100%"
      "I am an other type if I don't fit the description 100%"

      Seriously? I thought we got over this.
      Descriptions probably will never fit anyone ever 100% so what a stupid thing for you to suggest that I was saying that.

      Seriously....you take me too seriously....and you always seem somewhat angry in your responses to me in some way.

      I was saying somewhere above that the description fits me well & then playing with Absurd's 'good' by saying that the description wouldn't be that good an EII description if I happened to not be an EII .
    1. Pa3s's Avatar
      Pa3s -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shayley View Post
      Descriptions probably will never fit anyone ever 100% so what a stupid thing for you to suggest that I was saying that.
      I think there are still enough people who think along these lines. And that was what you said. It's good that you're aware of the relativity of typology, though.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shayley View Post
      Seriously....you take me too seriously....
      To be fair, you added that winky face later.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shayley View Post
      and you always seem somewhat angry in your responses to me in some way.
      No, I'm not.
    1. Absurd's Avatar
      Absurd -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shayley View Post
      It's not good if I'm another type though for then this description must be faulty for EII or I am faulty as another type.
      It's biased towards EIIs...
    1. LeaT's Avatar
      LeaT -
      I really have to say I wonder why every INFj portrait is so stereotyped towards enneagram 2, 4 and 9 tritype combination. I can see how some of the traits apply to me but the romanticized and kind nature is just pushed too far.
    1. Shytan's Avatar
      Shytan -
      This description is BULLSHIT
    1. The Reality Denialist's Avatar
      The Reality Denialist -
      Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
      This is where is all went wrong:

      "When a female INFj becomes your wife, know that in your home there lives a quiet angel. However, in her a feeling of duty is so developed that she will not shun house upkeep duties (cleaning, laundry cooking, and so on). Certainly, she does not love to cook - it is not in this that she sees her vocation. But she will never leave her relatives without food. And if somebody - one of the family members so picky that they want to eat only freshly prepared food, she will cook three times a day. This is in her nature.
      Russian women... It is expected hence Russian EIIs might totally adopt those habits.
    1. ShiningLunette's Avatar
      ShiningLunette -
      Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
      Look at this very classic example, Maria Shriver for years was not ALLOWED to wear pants because Arnold wouldn't let her and she OBAYED very civilly.

      It's an example of not caring or emphasizing your own will so much so that you don't care about materialistic presentations nor do you influence others or want to necessarily do so. So, you let others influence your decisions with regards to certain aspects of your life.

      LSE are proud, authoritarian, controlling. So, you need to have a certain "mildness" not meekness to your approach; a certain calm and rational manner, so to say. We're very patient, calm (unlike SEE who are a bit more fun/funny upbeat and energetic) and so we can put up with a lot but we are human and we have limits too; cross that limit and you may never return. That's not being mean, it's being consistent and upfront.
      This just described my last relationship, i had to dress a certain way and he dictated some things that were allowed/not allowed for me and i did just to please and compromise for him. I'm glad I'm not alone with this. Although it destroyed me.
    1. ShiningLunette's Avatar
      ShiningLunette -
      Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
      we are....very obedient
      Thank you for this. People treat this word so negatively that it almost makes me feel ashamed that I'm obedient by nature.