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    How do you integrate all the functions of Model A into a psyche? I'd really like to hear.

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    what do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    How do you integrate all the functions of Model A into a psyche? I'd really like to hear.
    You dont, model A doesnt exist, its simply an abstract representation of whats supposed to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    You dont, model A doesnt exist, its simply an abstract representation of whats supposed to be there.
    That's a given. How do you understand it in terms of reality? That's the point people seem to disregard.

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    Or if you feel it can't, then what does it do in terms of philosophy?

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    What are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    What are you talking about?
    You use Model A to represent psyches. How do you understand the ego, superego, superid, and id. What does it mean in terms of philosophy if anything at all? If it's not a philosophy, then what does it mean to be a certain type? How do you interpret the duality of the functions? How do you interpret intuition from sensing? How do you understand extroversion from introversion, judging from perceiving? I'm asking you to integrate everything into an inclusive whole. I want to know how you do that. I've done it and have not seen one person do such a thing. Instead people argue about parts of things and interpretations without building any kind of stable foundation on the theory. Actually, I only bring this up because no one seems to cares, but this has a lot of potential for constructive discussion since it gets at the core of all the reasoning that a person holds in understanding Jungian types. It's worth getting people to do.

    I know it's a lot to ask for though. People are so quick to fight, argue, and assert their understanding above all. And I know explaining an irrational abstract concept is hard to do because a lot depends on the perspective it's coming from; but there's no reason it can't be done just because it's hard. Actually doing this will make arguments easier to debate. We will be able to discern irreconcilable philosophies from what are similar ideas of thought. Then you could create a collection of schools of thought by knowing how to compare their foundations. This would solve a lot of bickering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    You dont, model A doesnt exist, its simply an abstract representation of whats supposed to be there.
    I see no reification in Divided's demand. A psyche is also abstract.
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