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    Default Using Socionics to win.

    Socionics is a marvelous tool for scoring petty victories in social situations.

    These are the gist of some things I've said to representatives of various types, with the intent of deliberately applying Socionics to hit their weak spots, which makes me evil according to nifflol.


    To ILI:

    "Boohoo." (More of an Se thing, but it works.)


    To ILE:

    "You're annoying me. I don't care if you think I'm being stupid. I don't have to justify how I feel to you, and I don't have to act a certain way just because you think it makes sense. Maybe you should learn how to not be an asshole, and then people might like you and want to listen to what you say to them. Now leave me alone."

    "You're a nerd. Stop trying to act tough."


    To SLI:

    "You're embarrassing and awkward."


    To SEI / IEI:

    "Maybe you should consider if what you're saying actually makes sense in reality and not just in lala land."


    To EII / LII:

    "Stop whining and do something. You're just sitting there like a coward."


    To EIE:

    "Sounds cool. Now go away, I'm trying to eat."


    To LIE:

    "That's interesting, but I find that I can just go through my day and not worry about it. I don't like to tire myself out making a fuss over something like a child." (It wasn't so literal, but I forget how I said it.)


    To LSI:

    "Why?"

    "Why?"

    "Why?"

    "Why?"


    To ESI:

    "We're all human here, let's not get carried away with the unwarranted persecution of people on account of them being imperfect."

    "Wait... why are you so angry? Okay... but why did that make you angry?"


    To SEE:

    "Do you think it's a good idea for people to do that? Right, so why did you do it?"


    To LSE:

    "What you're saying makes sense. But do you really have to be so gruff and unpleasant when saying it?"


    To IEE:

    "Stick to humanities and leave topics requiring hierarchical logic to people whose thinking has more consistency than baby sick."

    "You make some statement, but your supporting evidence is completely inadmissible, fallacious, and irrelevant."

    "I say 1 + 1 = 2. You say 1 + 1 = 'more than that.' No, it doesn't."


    To SLE:

    "You're a terrible person." (and he got really upset, lmao)


    To ESE:

    "You're wasting your energy on something that is secondary and has no long term importance." (I was actually trying to be helpful here; the ESE was being overly detailed cleaning her apartment before having company, while larger, more pressing tasks went undone.)
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    I prefer the more direct method to inflicting harm on my opponent and showing them who is dominant


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    I noticed ILI was missing.

    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    I prefer the more direct method to inflicting harm on my opponent and showing them who is dominant

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    I noticed ILI was missing.


    You're a nerd. Stop trying to act tough.
    I was going to include ILIs, but my tactic for them has more to do with Se. I basically say "Boohoo" and they get all flustered.

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    Okay, I added ILI anyway.

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    That is, unless you got their type wrong, in which case you would use socionics and lose.

    And LIIs are supposed to be your kindred, you monster!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
    That is, unless you got their type wrong, in which case you would use socionics and lose.
    And if I have sex with my girlfriend, I win. Unless I identified her wrong, then I go to jail.

    And LIIs are supposed to be your kindred, you monster!
    We do share the same sort of cantankerousness and irritation at stupidity, but other than that they're sort of pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    You're a nerd. Stop trying to act tough.
    Lol I'm not acting tough, the thing you fail to realize is that I'm not necessarily trying to "harm an opponent or show them who is dominant"... but if I were, yes I would use a gun.... and it doesn't require toughness to do, their have been plenty of shooters which possessed ordinary and unimpressive physical and mental stamina/strength.

    So you need to stop telling other people what they are and how they should act, thank you very much.

    Besides I am just saying, I have more respect for people who don't psychologically manipulate people and learn how to get under their skin, I respect people who instead just clear the air. But I just looked and well I see that its funny cause you used what discojoe said in his description. What I find funny though is that many people tend to type me as something other than ENTp which means if I get offended, that either discojoe's list is incorrect, or those other people's typings are incorrect. Not everyone can be right, as there is so much inconsistent bullshit out there, you have to be careful with what you consider to be valid and not or else you'll catch someone elses stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Lol I'm not acting tough, the thing you fail to realize is that I'm not necessarily trying to "harm an opponent or show them who is dominant"... but if I were, yes I would use a gun.... and it doesn't require toughness to do, their have been plenty of shooters which possessed ordinary and unimpressive physical and mental stamina/strength.

    So you need to stop telling other people what they are and how they should act, thank you very much.
    You're annoying me. I don't care if you think I'm being stupid. I don't have to justify how I feel to you, and I don't have to act a certain way just because you think it makes sense. Maybe you should learn how to not be an asshole, and then people might like you and want to listen to what you say to them. Now leave me alone.
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    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    You're annoying me. I don't care if you think I'm being stupid. I don't have to justify how I feel to you, and I don't have to act a certain way just because you think it makes sense. Maybe you should learn how to not be an asshole, and then people might like you and want to listen to what you say to them. Now leave me alone.
    lol this is like a trolling training ground supervised by discojoe

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I basically say "Boohoo" and they get all flustered. (More of an Se thing, but it works.)
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Why?
    Boohoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozz View Post
    Boohoo.
    Why?

    Why?

    Why?

    Why?
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    itt discojoe uses socionics to alienate everybody in his life

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    itt Galen is a fag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vois View Post
    Lol this would not work. Unless annoying somebody counts as hitting a weak spot.

    My reaction to this would be: How boring. Doesn't he know there are more interesting things than food? That he can talk and eat at the same time? I would probably judge you as a simple person, and lose interest.

    Something more effective would be: "Holy fuck, when was the last time you bathed?! If you want to have a conversation with me, go take a fucking shower first." And use your best gay-boy/snotty bitch voice too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    itt Galen is a fag.
    oh good so we are just saying obvious things about each other


    also fwiw, your IEE zinger did get to me lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Why?

    Why?

    Why?

    Why?
    Unprincipled.

    You can't win EyeSeeCold. I have more from Fe PoLR week.

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    That's annoying only so far that you think it would be annoying to me. It's only a weakness in the sense that you actually think that is my weakness.

    Sort of like somebody hitting you with a plastic bat over and over again, and it doesn't hurt in the slightest but the other person is certain they're getting under your skin, but they're really not.

    But yeah, you do get off on trying to troll other people in your life. And Galen is right , it's why you're alone. =D But I guess normal, healthy relationships aren't for everybody. Or something.

    And use your best gay-boy/snotty bitch voice too.
    If DJ does a gay boy-snotty bitch voice he would have to be acting. My voice is already naturally that way!!!

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    @ Vois & BnD

    Your girly defensiveness only makes what I said about you sound even more true.

    And it is true, so stop wasting everyone's time with your pathetic denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Socionics is a marvelous tool for scoring petty victories in social situations.
    True, and the list is entertaining, but why not use your socionics knowledge now for good? And lift people up? Make some new friends, or help people? Not just bring people down and make the world a horrible place.

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    Socionics:

    Some will use it for good, and others for evil!

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    It might be more effective using Enneagram than Socionics in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Dew View Post
    True, and the list is entertaining, but why not use your socionics knowledge now for good? And lift people up? Make some new friends, or help people? Not just bring people down and make the world a horrible place.
    Because it's funny? I mean, that's not necessarily a good reason for doing it, but, well, it's a reason.
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    I think I like your idea. Tweak them a bit to fit an individual but yeah...
    Tomorrow I think I will go out and try psychologically harming people.
    1: it is fun.
    2: observing their reactions is often quite interesting.
    3: It boosts my self esteem

    Also, i think if I was trying to talk to someone and they said any of those things to me (exception of why? why? why? I have fun when people ask that) I would feel preety sad

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    meh i think the sli, eie, and sle ones would be the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Longer a Dating Site View Post
    Hmm, not sure about this. I will think on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Hmm, not sure about this. I will think on it.
    Long and hard?
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    lmao

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    I'm pretty sure all of these would irritate anyone depending on context.
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    I'm pretty sure of various irrelevant things too.

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    I am offended by all of these PoLRs. You are hurting people's feelings and I think you are a horrible person. This is wrong and for anyone that posted in this thread because no one should ever express an opinion since they hurt other people and that is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Socionics is a marvelous tool for scoring petty victories in social situations.

    These are the gist of some things I've said to representatives of various types, with the intent of deliberately applying Socionics to hit their weak spots, which makes me evil according to nifflol.

    ...
    These can only work if the person believes you're serious and know what you're talking about. If they have reason to think you're bluffing, faking, or aren't as competent as they are, then they won't work. A lot of things can be trained, including responses to criticism. Just look at professional politicians. They turn it into an art.
    It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Socionics is a marvelous tool for scoring petty victories in social situations.
    If you are looking to score such a victory through these means, it seems to me you have already lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    These can only work if the person believes you're serious and know what you're talking about. If they have reason to think you're bluffing, faking, or aren't as competent as they are, then they won't work. A lot of things can be trained, including responses to criticism. Just look at professional politicians. They turn it into an art.
    Works when I do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valori View Post
    If you are looking to score such a victory through these means, it seems to me you have already lost.
    Unless the point is to score the victory through these means, in which case I've won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Egbert Human View Post
    "I FUCKED CHARLIE SHEEN LAST SUMMER"

    "winning is an STI"

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