Experience with DS Ne in ISTp and ISFp

[Iwantpeace]

The Socionics articles give a good idea of DS Ne but what is your personal experience of Ne in ISFp and ISTp?

[Tallmo]

How creative are ISTps and ISFps? They seem quite creative at times, .

creativity is not type related.

[Cosmic Teapot]

The Socionics articles give a good idea of DS Ne but what is your personal experience of Ne in ISFp and ISTp?
I have interacted with an ISFp quite a bit lately and while she is so sweet is not open to suggestions, new experiences etc. etc.
She seems to want concrete plans from me before I have time to think them out. She likes to plan a lot. I get it and that seems fair.

How creative are ISTps and ISFps? They seem quite creative at times, but perhaps I am mistaking their Si with their Ne, and wanting their surroundings to be beautiful. Their Ne would be around 0.5 in strength, similar to my Ti strength .

Does not sound like an ISFp tbh

[WinnieW]

creativity is not type related.

Creativity is linked to intuition. Both and
Because nobody ignore both functions, yes, everbody is to some degree creative.

[Sol]

plans - J types SEI don't care so much about plans
you need identify correctly types at 1st and then ask help to deal with them

[Chae]

As peeps are receptive to the free wellness fumbles and fiddles of - because well we love tickles that should be a given you uncultured canaille - is receptive to the endless meme fantasy life of which provides them with enough nonsense not to give up.

Disclaimer: This definition of socionics elements is not Gulenko approved ✘

[The Reality Denialist]

Me being creative with sensing seems like a joke.

I would say that regardless of that it has happened to some degree. Performance and stability lacks far behind.

Creativity is though subject to define.

[WinnieW]

is an unconscious IE for xII and IxE types. We (Chae, Troll Nr 007, WinnieW) use it without being aware using

[Syynth]

With 1D , ISXps are not going to be confident in their ability to improvise in new, unfamiliar, or unexpected situations, so they will need to make plans. Being irrational types, they aren't going to enjoy doing this, so they appreciate Ne leads who can anticipate and quickly respond to anything new. That way they can focus on doing what they do best, .

[powerrainbowcrystal]

Well the main ILE (male)/SEI (female) couple I know... the male offers new things for her to try out in the world which she then likes following him/doing. I'm sorry if this example feels... basic bitch-y or not intellectual enough, but it was really a perfect, grounded example of Ne dual seeking to me. Ne dual seeker usually loves the suggestions of the ne-ego person, and follows them around.

ne dual seeking istp I think works a little differently... My iee cousin with her sli husband, the sli doesn't follow her around externally so much as I think the Ne helps him better socially, its kinda the reverse of the alpha example in a way - it helps him navigate the social and interpersonal arena, for which my cousin is narcissitically good in.

[WinnieW]

ESE-Fe have stronger . My aunt is ESE-Fe I guess, but I see her a enneagram 2w3 type. I appreciate her use of

(ESE-Fe is the type of Spongebob ESE-Fe with eneagram 729 tritype. Often mistyped as IEE.)