Betas : Your description of the Delta types?

[Skeptic]

Please, kindly up the dosage of whatever pill you're on.

lol, that's your dual now, be nice

[Kyon]

lol, that's your dual now, be nice

I'm just saying... anger management issues are blatant there.

[Beautiful sky]

I'm just saying... anger management issues are blatant there.

It's not anger, it's Fe role function humor.

[Airman]

It's not anger, it's Fe role function humor.

YES, you are totally right there, Maritsa.

People often mistake my Fe role function humor - which can be acid and sharp, sarcastic and even perhaps too direct so I understand why people make this mistake - for anger. It´s not anger, really, when you write something it´s hard to also show whether you were saying that in a kind of sarcastic and calm manner or totally pissed off and irritated. So in written language and especially this forum I´ve been learning that too often my humor is taken as offensive, and not as just making fun.

I also think people underestimate the importance of the 3rd Function (Role) which I see is very clearly used, not as often as the 1st of course, but often it replaces the 1st for a short span of time, like in my previous joke.

Whereas a serious built-up aggressive anger outburst (demonstrative Se in my case) occurs much less often. But people mistake one for the other often, and it´s not their fault, this is really complicated to convey without speaking, just through reading, you can easily not get an Fe-role joke and take it for an Se-aggression, especially if you´re Ti/Ne (alpha or beta) since Ti does not get subtleties, it just accepts all information as serious data to be dealt with.

And Maritsa, as my dual, could read me perfectly in this regard.

[Beautiful sky]

YES, you are totally right there, Maritsa.

People often mistake my Fe role function humor - which can be acid and sharp, sarcastic and even perhaps too direct so I understand why people make this mistake - for anger. It´s not anger, really, when you write something it´s hard to also show whether you were saying that in a kind of sarcastic and calm manner or totally pissed off and irritated. So in written language and especially this forum I´ve been learning that too often my humor is taken as offensive, and not as just making fun.

I also think people underestimate the importance of the 3rd Function (Role) which I see is very clearly used, not as often as the 1st of course, but often it replaces the 1st for a short span of time, like in my previous joke.

Whereas a serious built-up aggressive anger outburst (demonstrative Se in my case) occurs much less often. But people mistake one for the other often, and it´s not their fault, this is really complicated to convey without speaking, just through reading, you can easily not get an Fe-role joke and take it for an Se-aggression, especially if you´re Ti/Ne (alpha or beta) since Ti does not get subtleties, it just accepts all information as serious data to be dealt with.

And Maritsa, as my dual, could read me perfectly in this regard.

I enjoy this aspect of my duals, their humor is highly entertaining, even though I can see how it has many ethical slips in it (blunt, offensive, etc), but I can recognize when certain things have gone too far. Fi is able to recognize those lines between good/bad in a evolving/subjective and adaptive way. Once I know that you're a good person and what you say is not meant to hurt or harm any one I adapt to your ways and let you be who you are and promote social bonds. For instance, I'm able to ease the tensions of others who get offended by ESTj's bluntness/gruffness by communicating to them that that's just your type of humor, keeping your friends close by you (making sure they don't get offended and cut relations with you); helping you promote good social bonds.

In duality, you're supposed to be you and your dual accepts you as you are, but is able to take full benefit from those special abilities that you have...Te for me, Fi for you.

I'm very happy and content to be duals with such wonderful, sensitive, smart, organized, logical duals; You

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.
Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.

Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.
Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.

Please don't go away, I'm ready and I'm able
Please don't go away (Don't go!) 'till morning comes around.
Please don't go away while maritsian typing is on the table
Please don't go away (Don't go!) just lay your body down.

Now I don't know what I would do if you got up to leave,
My jealous heart beats deep inside and not here on my sleeve.
'Cause I could show a boy like you such loving and affection,
I don't want to make no speech this here ain't no election.

Please don't go away, Honey, change your mind and stay!
Hot love's on the way, Honey, let me hear you say - yeah, yeah, yeah!

Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.
Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.

Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.
Fi for you, Te for me,Fi for you, Te for me.

[strrrng]

IEEs are probably the most bearable, cause I can write off their scattered social capers without much tax. don't have many issues with LSEs; dealing with them in work settings is manageable, as long as they don't have too much authority. EIIs are just neutral to me, at this point; dealing with an Fi-EII parent for so long has immunized me to the silent judgments and attitude of aristocratic entitlement. SLIs I don't interact with much, and it seems when I do, there isn't a lot to say.

IEIs smile at me while thinking condescending thoughts or thoughts about where they'd rather be instead of smiling at me.

yeah, I do that, but who doesn't? it's hard not to see warped comedy in interpersonal activities on a daily basis, and usually people aren't aware to how they're casting themselves, so it's easy to see caricatures as well.

Should they act not according to their own standards just to make you feel better? Their not enforcing them, they live by them, whatever judgment others perceive is either a misunderstanding or a sub-product of being themselves.

if they're just "living by them," there's no need to judge others against them; that's basically trying to justify them to yourself. betas are easier for me to deal with in this regard, because they'll either write off any possible agreement of beliefs, or directly attempt to influence me.

[Airman]

I enjoy this aspect of my duals, their humor is highly entertaining, even though I can see how it has many ethical slips in it (blunt, offensive, etc), but I can recognize when certain things have gone too far. Fi is able to recognize those lines between good/bad in a evolving/subjective and adaptive way. Once I know that you're a good person and what you say is not meant to hurt or harm any one I adapt to your ways and let you be who you are and promote social bonds. For instance, I'm able to ease the tensions of others who get offended by ESTj's bluntness/gruffness by communicating to them that that's just your type of humor, keeping your friends close by you (making sure they don't get offended and cut relations with you); helping you promote good social bonds.

In duality, you're supposed to be you and your dual accepts you as you are, but is able to take full benefit from those special abilities that you have...Te for me, Fi for you.

I'm very happy and content to be duals with such wonderful, sensitive, smart, organized, logical duals; You

Thanks a lot for these compliments, honey. The greatest problem with women to me is that I cannot find one who values Fi like EIIs do, it´s their language, totally.

Often when I get to know and start to like some woman I´ll be secretly sad if I see she´s being kind of cold or even cool, I´ll take that as bad, as not fulfilling, or as hostile. Like yesterday night I met this interesting woman, nice and upbeat, charming seducing, perfect body, and we slept together. When we talked on the phone after I came back home and had my day and she had hers it was okay, but I see clearly she´s Fe-valuing and sees Fi as kind of unnecessary. She´s probably an ENFJ, and I´m totally sure she´s an E3w2.

A relationship like this can be kind of interesting because Fe-leading women usually get my Fe-role function activated so I get more upbeat and excited about life in general, out of my too rational and serious mood. But there´s the lack of Fi there and my seriousness and not being very cheerful (which is Te + devalued Fe) and not very upbeat can make Fe-leads to think I´m a boring person, or just too serious and with a bad mood - which is unfortunately quite true, although people who can see my intentions, character and inner concerns will find me a noble and good-hearted person, like EIIs, because they can clearly read myself, like an open book, getting at who I really am below the surface of a serious, methodical, demanding and at times domineering person.

Here where I live most EIIs - and deltas in general - are too aristocratic in the sense of having too many prejudices and caring too much about social status and money. Most EII girls - but not all - I have met here are like this, they care too much whether you´re a rich guy or whether you´re doing something which can get you rich, where in society you´re at. I think Deltas in general care too much about social status and can be these kind of arrogant people.