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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    Recent research conducted by Elena Olkova together with Elena Udalova proves that sociotypes aren't genetically determined but rather form as the result of mother's biggest concerns (which form the vulnerable function of a child) during the pregnancy. During the research, 100 pairs of monozygotic twins were tested and clearly showed different sociotypes (i.e. there were no twins with identical sociotypes found).

    above from wikipedia socionics article. seems like an interesting proposition and we have discussed genetics and socionics on this forum before. those of you who are moms: does your experience confirm this? what were your biggest pre-occupations while pregnant?

    for others, males and not moms yet, what do you think? if you know your mother's type....how do you think it dovetails to yours?
    The research as it is presented in this quote appears only to suggest that type isn't dependant on genetics, I can't see how that can be used in itself to support the proposed hypothesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    The research as it is presented in this quote appears only to suggest that type isn't dependant on genetics, I can't see how that can be used in itself to support the proposed hypothesis.
    this is initial speculation type of thread not concrete fully supported hypothesis type of thread. i'm asking people what their experiences are, to see if there is even any face validity. if we get a bunch of contradictory responses, then we would tend to dismiss. if there is some confirmation then we could look more closely.

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    With #1, probably largely work issues, but also whether I'd make a good mom. With #2, probably how it would affect #1.

    I think #1 is IEE. Not sure about #2. Introvert, maybe SEI.

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    Oh yeah, and Sept. 11 happened early in my pregnancy with #1, and there was a certain amount of "Oh god what kind of world am I bringing this baby into?"

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    Isn't there a contradiction in the results?

    Sociotype is determined by pregnancy, but all the twins had different sociotypes.

    But when the mother was pregnant, she was pregnant of both at the same time, how can they have different sociotypes then if the pregnancy determines sociotype?

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    WorkaholicsAnon is an identical twin.

    I think it could be partly genetic and partly random, or partly genetic, partly womb conditions, partly random. I feel skeptical of the theory in the OP though.

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    Since my Mom is my super-ego I guess she was just being herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Isn't there a contradiction in the results?

    Sociotype is determined by pregnancy, but all the twins had different sociotypes.
    Yeah LOL, I/O error.

    Blaze: explanations; did we miss something regarding the "mother's biggest concerns" factor?
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    thanks everybody. maybe it's a little bit too half baked an idea. seemed worth asking about though.

    i tried to google the researcher in question and didn't find anything to further explicate what the wiki article was saying about the mother's concerns. for myself i just went with my own interpretation.

    but it seems that my concerns are very similar to Mariella's and i bet most moms. so the idea seems captivating but perhaps is ultimately too supernatural.

    lol

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    I am a ENTp and my mom is a ESTP. She said that she wasn't really concerned about anything when she was pregnant with me. She just wanted to make sure that I was healthy. She worked out, drank milk, and stayed away from smokers.

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