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    You guys are crazy.

    I've actually seriously considered lipo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    You guys are crazy.

    I've actually seriously considered lipo.
    What, you mean, right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    You guys are crazy.

    I've actually seriously considered lipo.
    Are you that self-absorbed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    Are you that self-absorbed?
    And the judging begins, ladies and gentlemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    Are you that self-absorbed?
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    And the judging begins, ladies and gentlemen.
    Seriously.
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    I would have a tummy tuck, not to get rid of fat but to get rid of the loose skin I have after carrying twins full term (and I do mean the full 40 weeks, they were born on the due date for a singleton). Judge me all you want, I feel no shame. And actually I may get one anyway and pay out of pocket for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I would have a tummy tuck, not to get rid of fat but to get rid of the loose skin I have after carrying twins full term (and I do mean the full 40 weeks, they were born on the due date for a singleton). Judge me all you want, I feel no shame. And actually I may get one anyway and pay out of pocket for it.

    there is nothing wrong with it, imo.

    my sis is sort of an extreme case where she's had so much work done on herself and works SO HARD on her appearance that it does seem vain. but getting a few things done is nothing bad. if something about your looks bugs you, then fix it? i mean, i don't see what the issue is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    there is nothing wrong with it, imo.

    my sis is sort of an extreme case where she's had so much work done on herself and works SO HARD on her appearance that it does seem vain. but getting a few things done is nothing bad. if something about your looks bugs you, then fix it? i mean, i don't see what the issue is.
    IT MEANZ UR SELF ABSORBED, DUH!!!

    ha..anyone who says they're not concerned about their appearance is basically lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I would have a tummy tuck, not to get rid of fat but to get rid of the loose skin I have after carrying twins full term (and I do mean the full 40 weeks, they were born on the due date for a singleton). Judge me all you want, I feel no shame. And actually I may get one anyway and pay out of pocket for it.
    Actually, I would seriously consider doing anything that gets me back to a "younger" version of myself, esp. if my body changed after pregnancy. I think that's totally fine because you're not changing the way you look genetically.
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    No, I would never get it. ew. And with a lot of people you can tell, so while jenny's new boobs may look good on the surface, the underlying motivation doesn't. And most facial jobs don't look that good anyway. I generally respect someone who accepts their flaws more than someone who tries to force a better look, since doing the latter doesn't even fix the issue a lot of the time (artificial body parts/structures aren't exactly inconspicuous if you have a keen eye).
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I would have a tummy tuck, not to get rid of fat but to get rid of the loose skin I have after carrying twins full term (and I do mean the full 40 weeks, they were born on the due date for a singleton). Judge me all you want, I feel no shame. And actually I may get one anyway and pay out of pocket for it.
    same here. four 10lbers and nursed them all. tummy tuck, laser off the stretch marks and boob lift.

    the ONLY thing that makes me vacillate is the image that i would be sending to my kids that i believe my body is not "good enough" as it is, especially for my girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    Are you that self-absorbed?
    Basically

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    You guys are crazy.

    I've actually seriously considered lipo.
    I am glad i am Si polr, I just dont care and dont want to care about my appreance, one less burden to carry on in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    I eat pork. I'm glad am a Si ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    I eat pork. I'm glad am a Si ego.
    you are muslim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    No. I... just really like pork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    No. I... just really like pork.
    Oh, I like pork too, but I am still an si plor ;-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    OH but i dont like lipo, but i am still an si polr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    I eat pork. I'm glad am a Si ego.
    Pork is gross. I like ham and bacon.

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Pork is gross. I like ham and bacon.
    isn't pork a general term for pig meat? hame and bacon are also pig meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Pork is gross. I like ham and bacon.
    Quote Originally Posted by mpiazza000 View Post
    isn't pork a general term for pig meat? hame and bacon are also pig meat.
    Yeah DA... how could you be so unaware?

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    Yeah DA... how could you be so unaware?
    DA? Lol, makes me sound like Dorothy Ann from "The Magic Schoolbus." Pork is totally different! Ham is cured. Bacon is thin, fried, and you can see where the fat is. Pork has invisible insides and it's ugly. No fun to eat. And all three meats have a totally different flavor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post

    ha..anyone who says they're not concerned about their appearance is basically lying.
    I strongly disagree. I'm not "concerned" about my appearance. I mean, I care enough to put a little makeup on every morning, but by no means do I go around being "concerned" and worrying about how I look all day or obsessing over my hair. It all seems so vastly insignificant in the larger scheme of things. I can't fathom anyone normal-looking person caring that much. It seems wrong and extremely unattractive to me to be shallow enough to go to the extreme of getting surgery to alter your otherwise normal appearance.

    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    No, I would never get it. ew. And with a lot of people you can tell, so while jenny's new boobs may look good on the surface, the underlying motivation doesn't. And most facial jobs don't look that good anyway. I generally respect someone who accepts their flaws more than someone who tries to force a better look, since doing the latter doesn't even fix the issue a lot of the time (artificial body parts/structures aren't exactly inconspicuous if you have a keen eye).
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    numbers, try to reconnect with nature a little bit. the mountain misses you.
    what does that have to do with the accent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
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    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    numbers, try to reconnect with nature a little bit. the mountain misses you.
    the mountain lmao
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    ham, bacon and pork are all delicious.

    If any of you saw how huge my stomach was at 40 weeks pregnant with twins, and what exactly it looks like now, even though I only weigh 134 at 5 feet 10 inches, you might agree that surgery is desirable. It's just loose skin. I mean, I've lived with it for the past 9 years so it's not like I'm obsessed with getting rid of it. I'm not looking to wear a bikini or something and my husband doesn't care one way or the other but it's annoying, especially in summer, to always have to make SURE that area is covered up. Because otherwise it's just... gross.

    So Diana, that's interesting that you think there may be a non-surgical fix for this? I mean, we're not just talking stretch marks here (although there are plenty of those as well but they don't bother me). But some serious skin. Hmmm. I'll have to look into that. I don't relish the thought of going under the knife for something not absolutely necessary. That's for sure.
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    I don't see why exercise can't fix such an issue.
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    If you lose massive amounts of weight in a short time period, you're still going to be left with loose skin no matter how hard you work out. I have tried everything in my power to tone it up and ....nothing. I could only imagine what it'd be like having twins. I see nothing wrong about getting that procedure done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    I don't see why exercise can't fix such an issue.
    Nope. Exercise tones the muscles underneath. But once skin is stretched out to a certain point, it doesn't bounce back. That's why, if you've ever seen very obese people who have lost a lot of weight, they sometimes have rolls of skin in certain places. No amount of exercise fixes that.
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    Yeah, that type of procedure seems more pragmatic than most—especially if the person has already put work in on their body. Lipo is a different thing to me, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    Ah, I found it. It's called "thermage". Some of the before and after pics there isn't much difference - others there's a lot. http://www.seattleface.com/html/thermage_body.php
    interesting. thanks for posting the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    Ah, I found it. It's called "thermage". Some of the before and after pics there isn't much difference - others there's a lot. http://www.seattleface.com/html/thermage_body.php
    i checked this out. mine is to the point of my belly button being deformed. not sure that would help me.

    my ab muscles have also separated and even with all the ab work i do, my stomach sticks out and you can see the hole up the middle. kinda weird looking....

    and i completely agree with redbaron. i workout A LOT and the skin itself doesnt "go back."

    i can also see how someone with very weak Si would be more self conscious about their appearance. kinda like the thread on Si PolR and the ones who go overboard keeping their homes pristinely clean and white, etc...

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    redbaron and dbbmamma, i don't judge women at all for that sort of thing. i'd be the first to get it done if i had kids and my stomach changed. i don't put that in the same category at all with boob jobs, nose jobs, etc.- and not that i judge that stuff either.
    also, calenwen and anyone else: how is being obsessed with your appearance shallow and superficial? i am really insecure about certain aspects of my appearance- i'll get anxious and scared to be in public- but if you asked me whether I judge other people based on their appearances you would realize that I don't even notice!
    Insecurity over your own appearance is not the same thing as judging other people for their appearance. As dbbmamma said, weak S types can overdo it in this regard.
    And, also, even if jessica or other people here judged others for their appearance, no offense but who are you to judge that this is so bad?
    we're judging people's judgments now.....oy
    for myself, I don't care what standards people use to judge others (as long as it makes them happy). I'll just surround myself for people who appreciate the things in me that I appreciate in myself (and hence have similar values/things that they judge).
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