Any chance I'm LSI?

[Creepy-Snaps]

Yes, really. Now I know many of you think ESE fits fine. But Beta ST fit well too. And I'm tough to type because of personality masking, I think I can come across as several different types. Some people are still typing me SEE or LSE! Every quadra... Anyway. Before I make my argument, here are some more LSI-looking photos of me, when I'm focused/concentrating, or at rest. Not directly interacting with others per say. More my default expression.

*edit* 3-17-2012, removed the pictures for VI.

[Creepy-Snaps]

And I know, it's annoying to be somewhat unsure again, when I thought I had it figured out. But don't some of these basic descriptions fit?:

ISTjs often have a very firm, solid figure, especially males. They keep their feet rooted to the ground giving the impression that they are sturdy and secure. Their heads are firmly fixed squarely to their shoulders and are practically immovable. Their necks appear to be inflexible so when they turn their head their shoulders usually follow. Their facial expressions are somewhat unemotional and show great concentration.

I believe the physical description fits me.

I don't wear a mustache because 1) I don't grow much facial hair and 2) blonde mustaches don't look great anyway.

ISTjs walk with their hands down by their sides. Their arms hardly seem to move at all and it can appear that their elbows have no joints. Their gait is usually even and rhythmical however from time to time ISTjs can turn sharply and unexpectedly, changing their course without warning.

Also fits, and I change direction very quickly.

Many ISTjs find it quite easy to interact with strangers and considering that they are introverts can feel quite close to someone even after a relatively short amount of contact. They often have a large compendium of jokes and anecdotes. Males often use this arsenal to charm females, usually behaving very gallantly, successfully playing role of the gentleman. They are often the life and soul of the party. They enjoy singing with little more than a guitar for accompaniment and often in a romantic style.

This is probably what comes across to others as Fe. When I'm in a good mood, and charming, it can come across ESE-ish.

ISTjs try always to be punctual and appreciate this quality in others very much. They pay great attention to facts, figures and technical information. They try to work everything out in depth and down to the last detail. ISTjs are very realistic people. They are not supporters of unproved ideas or theories and will hesitate in undertaking uncertain projects. They believe that everything should be prepared carefully and accurately.

I very much take my time getting things right, especially paperwork, and can be very meticulous. And I loathe when others are late, and I'm waiting for them.

As children ISTjs are very often obedient, docile, responsible and respectful. For this reason they are often used by adults as examples to other children. This will often lead them to take positions of responsibility while still at school.

This. I was always a model student.

ISTjs are always ready to share their knowledge with others and readily give people advice based on their own experiences.

Many others on this forum, 16types, have pointed out this tendency of mine. Here's just one example:

Mountain Dew He's a nice guy. Upstanding. He genuinely believes in helping people reach a better place in their lives. The kind of guy that offers up what life's taught him without regret. "Take what I've learned works and improve on it." Proactive future thinker oriented on goals. Cooperative. He tries to be gentle and understanding. "Hard work leads to results." Most of the things that are are for good reason. Honors tradition. A gentleman. A man accepting of the current epoch in which he is raised.

When in conversation, ISTjs often utilise common expressions and sayings and may sometimes be excessively instructive and edifying. This can be annoying to others.

C'mon, how many people have I pissed off here for 'advising' too much? Honestly.

IRL, happens a lot, my being too informative, or being overly helpful.

ISTjs are unconfident in relationships. They are aware of this inability and as a result are very suspicious of other people, especially ones that do not interact openly with them. This may often cause an excessive paranoia.

I've been called excessively paranoid MANY TIMES. IRL and on here. I do feel unconfident in relationships. I thought Fi made sense as an ignoring function, but as a Role function, it could fit too.

I could go on, but enough boring quoting. I do collect reference material, find it hard to throw away anything informational, and like to master my subjects of interest. Pretty much the whole description fits me.

Anyway. Rather than just post a "yes" or "no" about my being LSI, since people think I'm all kinds of things could you do me a favor and just post a % likelihood? Like: "I think there's an 80% chance MD is LSI." Or, "Nah, maybe only a 10% chance." Or something like that. Would be more helpful, thanks.

[Galen]

prolly not

[Creepy-Snaps]

prolly not

% likelihood?

[golden]

Zero percent likelihood.

[Creepy-male]

I have formed a socionics based impression of you, I think you are ESE

[squark]

Anyway. Rather than just post a "yes" or "no" about my being LSI, since people think I'm all kinds of things could you do me a favor and just post a % likelihood? Like: "I think there's an 80% chance MD is LSI." Or, "Nah, maybe only a 10% chance." Or something like that. Would be more helpful, thanks.

I think there's a zero % chance MD is LSI.

[The Ineffable]

I don't wear a mustache because 1) I don't grow much facial hair and 2) blonde mustaches don't look great anyway.

You look like that LSE friend of mine. After he cut his hair, he looks almost *exactly* like you (his nose is apparently a bit different), he also has that athletic constitution and tense body stance.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...gaesrthert.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...b-nvfuer85.jpg

BTW, neither he and his brother grow rich facial hair. NTR, of course, just FYI.
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The only reasonabele alternative to your type is LSE, IMO.

[Gilly]

Hmmm...I'm beginning to question ESE, your looks give me more of the "cautious" vibe that I usually get from Fi valuers.

[Gilly]

You give kind of a european vibe...are you Danish by any chance?

[Creepy-Snaps]

The fact you even considered another type by yourself automatically rules you out as an LSI.

I didn't. It was suggested by someone else. Not everyone agrees with ESE.

What happened to SLE(I mean the consensus, the opinions of the individual people)?

A small group of people thought I was too friendly and Alpha-ish to be SLE, saying ESE instead. That group continued to grow, and I got tired of arguing against it, so I decided just to go with it, and see what people thought.

You give kind of a european vibe...are you Danish by any chance?

Haha not quite, European yes. 25% Irish and 25% Romanian from my father's side, and then a mix of German/English/Native American Indian from my mother's side.

[EyeSeeCold]

A small group of people thought I was too friendly and Alpha-ish to be SLE, saying ESE instead. That group continued to grow, and I got tired of arguing against it, so I decided just to go with it, and see what people thought.

Yeah, it still hasn't left me, I remember the switch. But it's been a while since and the SLE typing kind of just faded in the background like it never happened.

[ashlesha]

i havent been able to see you as anything other than ESE for awhile. SLE never made sense to me and LSI doesnt either.

[ashlesha]

first he unsuccessfully listed a bunch of traits that he thought would point to LSE before reverting to just changing the emotional vibes he was putting out in a totally obvious transition with all the seams showing. Te role + Fe base + Ni polr.

[Creepy-Snaps]

As much as I hate repeating myself to make a point, and being perfectly aware that MD is attentive enough to not require it, I am just going to quote something I agree with.

The only reasonabele alternative to your type is LSE, IMO.

I know, I saw this thanks. And I know you said in another thread that you thought I was your mirror.

md, i love how the tone of your last post was way different than usual and youre "done being fake." wasnt it the same deal when you switched away from SLE? i find it telling that your reaction to changing your mind about your type is to adjust the dial on the emotional flavor of your posts. Fe. and when you were SLE i could suck a dick but now that you wanna be LSE i'm kinda cool? wtf, go kick rocks, lol.

Well I was angry before, when I typeswitched, because you thought I was doing it for jazz/show, when I was honestly trying to find my type. I felt personally insulted, that you had my motives wrong. I was mad in the moment, doesn't mean I didn't like you. I don't expect you or any other EII to just immediately like me because I might switch to LSE.

Tbh the LSE part of being unable to control emotions well fits too. Others are quite often able to get a reaction out of me, as you've seen on this forum as well as IRL, if I'm not careful.

first he unsuccessfully listed a bunch of traits that he thought would point to LSE before reverting to just changing the emotional vibes he was putting out in a totally obvious transition with all the seams showing. Te role + Fe base + Ni polr.

Good call. Look, if it turns out that I'm ESE after all, I'll give you props. But I just think that perhaps the way I usually interact with others, the bubbliness, isn't what comes naturally. And like I said, I'm done being fake. LSE seems to fit my analytical/organizational side a bit better than ESE.

[Filambee]

When you are in an relationship are you romantic ie buy her gifts and flowers and tell her how much you love her everyday, or do you think that as long as you are fulfilling your duties, you are showing how much you care?
I remember that forum and I thought you were an SLE because you were able to read people well like if they were lying.
You should do a YouTube vid and link it.

[Creepy-Snaps]

When you are in an relationship are you romantic ie buy her gifts and flowers and tell her how much you love her everyday, or do you think that as long as you are fulfilling your duties, you are showing how much you care?
I remember that forum and I thought you were an SLE because you were able to read people well like if they were lying.
You should do a YouTube vid and link it.

I think it's important to do both. I say "I love you", as well as provide. But when push comes to shove, I do believe actions speak louder than words. And I show my love more instead of saying it. And expressing it verbally can be a bit embarrassing, but I'm sure that's fairly common for a lot of guys.

[Aleksei]

This pretty much.