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    I remember a long time ago that you posted a picture of yourself. And the person in the picture kind of reminds me of you.

    So I'll say INFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    I remember a long time ago that you posted a picture of yourself. And the person in the picture kind of reminds me of you.

    So I'll say INFj.
    That's not following the directions.
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    This girl has appeared in some of my photos on here before. If you therefore recognize her please (at least temporarily) forget past associations and just look at what's presented in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    That's not following the directions.

    Minde - So are these pics of yourself? I'm guessing they are, because most people wouldn't post pics of a friend on a public forum, unless you had her permission I guess. So the girl is an INFj then?

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    well I think she's very pretty. but... like some others have said, there's something about the pics that I don't like. I didn't want to be unfair tho so I wasn't going to say anything. I think it's because she seems very aware that her picture's being taken and I feel like she's posing. Even when she's not looking right at the camera. It's a sense of being self-conscious maybe. Like she's an actress. Even in the pics where she's looking at the computer it's like i can tell she's not really concentrating on the computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    well I think she's very pretty. but... like some others have said, there's something about the pics that I don't like. I didn't want to be unfair tho so I wasn't going to say anything. I think it's because she seems very aware that her picture's being taken and I feel like she's posing. Even when she's not looking right at the camera. It's a sense of being self-conscious maybe. Like she's an actress. Even in the pics where she's looking at the computer it's like i can tell she's not really concentrating on the computer.
    Well, they're taking pics. This behavior seems quite normal to me, even cute.
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    If not INFj, the second type I'd guess for her is ISFp.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    That's not following the directions.
    Sorry. Let me try again.

    Just analyzing the picture, I don't know if it's the photography or the aura the person gives but she seems calm and gentle, even in the ones where she smiles and is a bit more energetic.

    At the very least, she gives off a Delta vibe. She seems like a playful person around people or things she enjoys being around. I'm mostly refering to the picture of the dog. Also, some of the pictures I can see the person kind of relishing her environment/in her own world (the fire picture).

    Even before postulating that it may be you, Minde, I thought this person may have been an INFj.

    Is that better?

    The pictures are very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    Even before postulating that it may be you, Minde, I thought this person may have been an INFj.

    She does look like her a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ann2430 View Post
    Minde - So are these pics of yourself? I'm guessing they are, because most people wouldn't post pics of a friend on a public forum, unless you had her permission I guess. So the girl is an INFj then?
    No, it's not me. And she doesn't mind me posting them online. Don't worry, I asked.

    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    well I think she's very pretty. but... like some others have said, there's something about the pics that I don't like. I didn't want to be unfair tho so I wasn't going to say anything. I think it's because she seems very aware that her picture's being taken and I feel like she's posing. Even when she's not looking right at the camera. It's a sense of being self-conscious maybe. Like she's an actress. Even in the pics where she's looking at the computer it's like i can tell she's not really concentrating on the computer.
    Yeah, she's not the best actor. (Which means that even though she's pretty, sometimes I have to work a little harder to get "natural" shots of her when I'm trying to get model-like shots.) And, yet, she almost always seems to have a sort of, hm, emotional barrier between herself and most of the world. Not a harsh barrier, like some do. Quite the opposite, actually. But sometimes she is not straightforward about what she really deeply thinks, feels, or wants. She can be very accommodating.

    There are a few in there where she didn't know I was taking the picture, like the fire and where she's talking with the market seller. So that "fake" feel you (an Fe-ego, right?) sense might just be how she naturally acts when around people and not just cameras. It's actually an interesting observation of yours.

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    If not INFj, the second type I'd guess for her is ISFp.
    Why, if I may ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    Sorry. Let me try again.

    Just analyzing the picture, I don't know if it's the photography or the aura the person gives but she seems calm and gentle, even in the ones where she smiles and is a bit more energetic.

    At the very least, she gives off a Delta vibe. She seems like a playful person around people or things she enjoys being around. I'm mostly refering to the picture of the dog. Also, some of the pictures I can see the person kind of relishing her environment/in her own world (the fire picture).

    Even before postulating that it may be you, Minde, I thought this person may have been an INFj.

    Is that better?

    The pictures are very good.
    Thank you.

    She wasn't really being that playful with the dog. Well, sort of - in that she's generally self-controlled around him. But she doesn't have a completely positive relationship with the animal, and in that picture she was genuinely telling him what she thought of him.

    And, thank you, much better.
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    She is confusing me. Fi something or Si something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
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    If not INFj, the second type I'd guess for her is ISFp.
    Why, if I may ask?
    It may be a "bug" in my "VI databank" and/or "software", but I am often uncertain about whether to VI some girls as INFj or ISFp -- just like Kristiina mentioned, above, "Fi or Si". It's when they make a clear impression of being of a Si quadra, and also of being, say, welcoming of "good Fe" (which is also related to Si), but make at the same time a certain impression of "quietness". I don't think it would take me long in deciding from IRL interactions.

    I would be very suprised if she were any other type, but a third option might be INTj (I often wonder if actually I'm "missing" a lot of INTj girls in VI by typing them as either INFj or ISFp).
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    ATM, I think the easiest way to describe her would be to compare her to myself.

    She and I are similar in many ways, yet different in many ways. Yes, that's a bit vague, so I'll try to be more specific.

    Some ways that we are similar: We often have similar reactions to things. For example, we were at a restaurant and were walking together to get some food. As we passed some booths that sat right to the side of the way to the food, we both said to the other, pretty much at the same time, "I wouldn't want to sit there." Of course, probably most people wouldn't want to sit there. But, still, we had the same thought at the same time, which is not unusual for us. (That's probably a bad example, but, oh, well.)

    We tend to evaluate people and situations in the same way in terms of what they are and what we like or don't like about them. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head.

    We are similar in some of the things that interest us and the kind of things that we like to know. For example, we can be swinging on some play-structure and wondering together about things like how fast you'd have to be going to go all the way around and what that'd do to your body. Of course, neither of us knows. When someone or something can tell us the answer, though, we are much gratified.

    We both work relatively hard at our jobs and are responsible and reliable. Work is work. You can have fun, of course, but the point is to get work done. That is relative to other people, though. Relative to each other, I'm a bit more serious and she's a bit more relaxed.

    She and I both like the arts, and we both have a similar level of interest in being healthy. I'm more likely to do something consistently with art, though, and she's more likely to take action on being healthy.

    Some ways that we are different: She is much more footloose and fancy-free than I. She, in fact, seems to need a certain amount of movement and stimulation, particularly pertaining to new experiences and people. I, on the other hand, need almost the opposite - a certain amount of stillness and sameness.

    She's a lot more likely to push boundaries than I, both her own personal ones and those set up by others.

    She and I are kind of opposite, too, in how we deal with people who are (or might be) trying to get something from us - market venders, for example, or guys looking for a girl. My initial attitude is icy; hers is warm. I'm more likely to start off saying no, then perhaps be convinced. She's more likely to start off saying yes, and then decide that she doesn't want it after all. But, once she says no, she can be very straightforward and firm; I, on the other hand, after opening up and when pressured can have a hard time solidifying the no.

    She's more likely to use physical force to accomplish something than I, which relates to the above.

    When approached with a problem - something's broken, for example - I'm more likely to stop and try to think it through, while she's more likely to just start trying things. Actually, in that sense we can work well together because she'll push us to action while I'll help make sure it's the best action. Although, even when combining our efforts, I think we don't always do things in the most practical or efficient of ways.

    I tend to be a tiny bit more intellectual than her, a bit more informed on matters and more likely to, hm, have a set idea on something. For example, once she posted a blog decrying Americans' focus on the "little" problem of gas prices when the rest of the world is starving, saying we have it so good that we shouldn't be complaining about something that insignificant and should instead be trying to help other people. Now, of course, I don't disagree that we should try to help other people, especially those less well off than ourselves, but I promptly informed her that gas prices were not, in fact, a "little" problem but that they were tied rather closely to the status of our entire economy. She didn't argue at all but said something like, "Oh, I guess you know a little more about that than me" and was thoughtful for a little.

    At any given time, I'm more likely to be sitting at my computer doing something structured and she's more likely to be hanging out with somebody or a group of somebody's doing something unstructured.

    Over the years I've seen her gradually developing her own positions on matters, which I consider progress when you take into account how she sometimes has difficulty expressing what she truly thinks and feels. I think she likes knowing what things mean and the facts behind things - which I guess goes back to how we are similar. She needs those types of things in order to feel confident about positions she takes.

    When she wants to know something, or is confused about something, she'll go to someone she trusts to know and asks them. An example of something she asks about - The other day she asked about communism, socialism, capitalism, and fascism, and what they all mean. Evidently she had been in a discussion with someone about governmental policies and had been called a fascist (which, as the person she was asking pointed out, meant that she had probably won any argument). She asked intelligent follow-up questions until she was satisfied.


    That's all for now. Any questions so far? Does any of this add to or change your impressions of her from VI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    It may be a "bug" in my "VI databank" and/or "software", but I am often uncertain about whether to VI some girls as INFj or ISFp -- just like Kristiina mentioned, above, "Fi or Si". It's when they make a clear impression of being of a Si quadra, and also of being, say, welcoming of "good Fe" (which is also related to Si), but make at the same time a certain impression of "quietness". I don't think it would take me long in deciding from IRL interactions.
    I don't quite completely understand what you mean by the bolded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I would be very suprised if she were any other type, but a third option might be INTj (I often wonder if actually I'm "missing" a lot of INTj girls in VI by typing them as either INFj or ISFp).
    Perhaps my description above will help.

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    does she enjoy giving massage?
    Um, not that I know of. I think she's more likely to need one than give one.

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    ESFPs usually intend ask for an opinion and this is seen as a disconnection from the object of attention.
    I don't understand what you're saying here.
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