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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I must be really strange if two people are arguing for Fi PoLR and Fi creative at the same time basing themselves on the same post.

    I don't think I'm strange, I just think that socionics information is now completely twisted, this is why something like this can happen.
    yeah, i agree with you, mostly. i have no idea how a dominant can see you as an ENTp while ishy can maintain that you're ESFp. i'm ready to throw out the whole thing because my head hurts and this all pretty much goes nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    yeah, i agree with you, mostly. i have no idea how a dominant can see you as an ENTp while ishy can maintain that you're ESFp. i'm ready to throw out the whole thing because my head hurts and this all pretty much goes nowhere.
    You forgot: an ENTp thinks I'm ESFj
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    Too far left and it's unacceptable. Too far right and it's unpalatable. Like Goldilocks, I think we all strive for what's just right. That doesn't make them wrong or insensible and it certainly doesn't make them bitches for thinking so. Anything else is bound to excite some sort of discontent. This is even true of duals. You might think they insist far too strongly on the perfection of their relationships, but it's not wholly incomprehensible. Our respective stomach between what we expect and what is in fact is different from person to person. You might call them unrealistic, but I don't think you can fault them for what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    yeah, i agree with you, mostly. i have no idea how a dominant can see you as an ENTp while ishy can maintain that you're ESFp. i'm ready to throw out the whole thing because my head hurts and this all pretty much goes nowhere.
    I'd be far more likely to throw aside my judgement, as it was in haste and based on impaired abilities (as well as limited knowledge and wisdom). Some of it was pretty reactionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Too far left and it's unacceptable. Too far right and it's unpalatable. Like Goldilocks, I think we all strive for what's just right. That doesn't make them wrong or insensible and it certainly doesn't make them bitches for thinking so. Anything else is bound to excite some sort of discontent. This is even true of duals. You might think they insist far too strongly on the perfection of their relationships, but it's not wholly incomprehensible. Our respective stomach between what we expect and what is in fact is different from person to person. You might call them unrealistic, but I don't think you can fault them for what they want.
    And this is what I'd call excessively diplomatic, really
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    /olive branch

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I'd be far more likely to throw aside my judgement, as it was in haste and based on impaired abilities (as well as limited knowledge and wisdom). Some of it was pretty reactionary.
    okay. sorry, i was having the brain-split of my life there for a moment. i would be interested in hearing more about why you think fabio's conduct is non-Fi valuing, though. i don't have a sharp case for either although he mostly strikes me as logical.

    BUT

    so as not to derail the thread -- back to rc's type. you do have a sort of negativist thing going which should technically rule out INFx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    FDG FYI: i've been skimming through your earlier posts and i have to concede the case i bought for weak Ti seems overblown.

    i'm still not convinced of weak sensing, though. it'd be interesting if Jonathan ellaborated his position on your type in the wiki.

    as for weak Fi... if you are sensing subtype ESp, that's going to be more ambiguous than say, comparing Slacker Mom's Fi to Ezra.

    your avatar is excessively nerdy

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I think I agree. that's why I'm not convinced of him being SEE, the current popular typing for him now. what has it been before? LIE? SLE? now SEE?
    ja it was LIE, then SLE. now ????

    also yes he does not have Ti polr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Hey, instead of denouncing a complaining girl as a "bitch", guys should be more vocal about the majority of guys being good guys.
    I think that's asking that things be looked at in an optimistic/positive way, or saying that they "should" be looked at that way and discussed in that light. I don't know that I agree.

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    i like it when men call each other bitches. actually i would prefer that they wear dresses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Hey rockclimber sorry for hijacking your thread

    But anyway, did you really dance on a bar? I'm quite curious about that now.
    I have a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Do you care about what other people think, rockclimber? It seems to me you don't. I admire that.
    In general, I care what people think of me. Its the reason I take the time to look decent everyday, the reason I'm health obsessed, the reason I keep my apartment clean (I hate cleaning), the reason (more often than not) I'm well mannered and careful not to insult people who have opinions different than my own... but when its time for me to de-stress, I'm going to do whatever I want regardless of how it makes me appear to random people.
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    PS: RC does not really seem to be in an Fe valuing quadra.
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    Has ISFj been suggested?
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    I think INTp is quite possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    I think INTp is quite possible.
    any arguments for this? i mean, she seems rational to me.

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    PS: RC does not really seem to be in an Fe valuing quadra.
    no, i don't really see this, either. no matter how hard i try, really.

    @ minde -- yes, ISFj was suggested by imfd95. my main issue with this is that i recall a few posts where she's said, "i can't say no, i can't say no." i think this speaks against ISFj or any sort of strongish . as of today, i don't tend to view ISXjs as having issues with this, or feeling bad about doing it. at the least, i don't expect them to sort of emphasize it.
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    I'm not claiming anyone here hates men, but there is lots of good in being single.

    http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/02/...-to-be-single/
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    any arguments for this? i mean, she seems rational to me.
    Yes but it will cost money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    This is all very true, good, rational, right advice. The problem is it's hard to accept. Hard to stomach. Hard to go out and walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
    Anything worth doing usually isn't easy.
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    Silence IS golden

    <reaches for a fortune cookie for another clich&#233;>
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    I think ifmd is on to something. Funny how he can explain things to the point that I can comprehend them. ISFj? Does that sound wholly off, RC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    I'm not claiming anyone here hates men, but there is lots of good in being single.

    http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/02/...-to-be-single/

    hahahahahahhaa, I almost feel like I could have written that... right up until the part where he talked about being married.

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    I will use the style of Minde's understatements:

    rockclimber may indeed have HA
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
    If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Yes but it will cost money.
    sounds like you better keep washin' dishes.
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    rockclimber, you're another one of these characters on the forum who simply doesn't shout, preach and/or swear enough for me to get a clear picture of you. I've got you down as EII simply because you proclaimed that, and others didn't disagree. What else are you considering? IEE or a different quadra entirely?

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