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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    I was asking these questions in an honest & earnest way --

    If you perceive my questions as idiotic & annoying then that's *your* emotional reaction to a perception... so that's fair --

    --
    Your statements of "idiotic" and "annoying" are purposely insulting towards me but I find that....actually ...if a reflection of you...., more than me --

    I asked really simple honest questions...without insulting you...

    and you seemed to emotionally "flip out"

    (maybe I'm wrong but that's how you come across)

    ---

    I'm used to knowing a lot of people that have been raped, beaten, terrorized...all in a culture that regularly jokes about "what chick/guy I'd like to fuck/rape" context -- (ha, ha...blah, blah..supposedly hillarity ensues)

    I don't care if you don't give a fuck about other people's reality in being sexually objectified or hurt in the real world--

    but I do --

    and *words* & attitudes & actions matter!

    Theoretically, that's why I asked -- because of the amount of people objectifying each other & violating privacy without giving two shits about it.

    You said you don't "think" she would mind

    thats not the same

    as...

    what SHE really thinks

    --

    So, it sounds like you are making a decision on her behalf --

    IMO that is a bit presumptuous

    (being a stupid/ annoying person to you..though, my opinion doesn't matter)
    It might have helped if you hadn't phrased your response in such a judgementally condescending way.

    anyway, you got some nice pieces of ass there parkster
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    It might have helped if you hadn't phrased your response in such a judgementally condescending way.

    anyway, you got some nice pieces of ass there parkster
    What I said wasn't condescending at all (that's your perception, i guess) & of course I'm judging the subject matter, not parkster -- but I gave my impression of his reaction to my questions & I gave my overall strong philosophical viewpoint regarding the thread, cultural aspects that I'm reminded of, & about posting pictures of other people w/out express permission--

    Unlike you, however-
    I gave caveats to my statements...

    So, ironically....besides your inaccurate perception, I'm wondering why you are so judgmental?

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    she looks like she may have had some work done. Either that, or it's the make-up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    What I said wasn't condescending at all (that's your perception, i guess) & of course I'm judging the subject matter, not parkster -- but I gave my impression of his reaction to my questions & I gave my overall strong philosophical viewpoint regarding the thread, cultural aspects that I'm reminded of, & about posting pictures of other people w/out express permission--

    Unlike you, however-
    I gave caveats to my statements...

    So, ironically....besides your inaccurate perception, I'm wondering why you are so judgmental?
    It had those undertones and your responses only serve to to make it more apparent; you obviously had a problem with what he put up, taking a criticizing stance, which seeped into your response to him. Whether this was your intention or not, this is how it came off to me and I'm betting parkster would agree as his comment back hints at resonance to what I am saying. So, as of now, I figure my perception is on. I posted as an attempt to clarify a possible explanation of parksters reaction towards you as you came off clueless towards it.

    As far as your judgemental comment, I dont know how to respond to that.

    Clarify abit.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    It had those undertones and your responses only serve to to make it more apparent; you obviously had a problem with what he put up, taking a criticizing stance, which seeped into your response to him. Whether this was your intention or not, this is how it came off to me and I'm betting parkster would agree as his comment back hints at resonance to what I am saying. So, as of now, I figure my perception is on. I posted as an attempt to clarify a possible explanation of parksters reaction towards you as you came off clueless towards it.

    As far as your judgmental comment, I dont know how to respond to that.

    Clarify abit.
    First off, I asked 2 straightforward questions on my initial thread. No criticism at all!
    (did you read my 1st post? & no I'm not being condescending-)

    Second, a response post by Parkster criticizing *me* with judgmental insults like "idiotic" and "annoying" --

    Third, me responding in depth... with caveats and explanation...still...NO INSULTS or criticism of Parkster-- (although, it "seemed" like he might have emotionally over-reacted...but I made sure to say that I could be wrong, out of respect to Parkster.... hense, I was still maintaining respectful conversation & not taking an absolute view...even though talking passionately about my beliefs... and though I had just been insulted by him in the previous thread)

    Fourth, you judgmentaly calling me "judgemental" and inaccurately "condesending."

    If the irony is not apparent to you ... I don't know how to further clarify -

    (Again, I'm saying all this in a fairly dispassionate mode...though I don't know how it comes across to you on internet)

    Do I have problems with photographs being put on the internet without people giving their explicit consent? Hell ya! I think that is a privacy violation that I'm not kosher with -

    Do I get annoyed with all the *I want to fuck so & so...* on the internet Ya, I do --

    So what?

    I have the right to my opinions like you do. I don't mind if people disagree but I'm not going to just sit here & suck up to people on threads if I don't agree with a philosophy - even if those people are people I generally admire -
    But the point is I asked a simple question and ironically got condescending insults in return -- which you further prolonged (knowingly or not)--

    Anyway,
    I didn't mean to offend him (or you) if that is what happened.

    but I also won't apologize for having my own opinions about life-

    anyway, goodnight pirate
    I must retire for the night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    First off, I asked 2 straightforward questions on my initial thread. No criticism at all!
    (did you read my 1st post? & no I'm not being condescending-)

    Second, a response post by Parkster criticizing *me* with judgmental insults like "idiotic" and "annoying" --

    Third, me responding in depth... with caveats and explanation...still...NO INSULTS or criticism of Parkster-- (although, it "seemed" like he might have emotionally over-reacted...but I made sure to say that I could be wrong, out of respect to Parkster.... hense, I was still maintaining respectful conversation & not taking an absolute view...even though talking passionately about my beliefs... and though I had just been insulted by him in the previous thread)

    Fourth, you judgmentaly calling me "judgemental" and inaccurately "condesending."

    If the irony is not apparent to you ... I don't know how to further clarify -

    (Again, I'm saying all this in a fairly dispassionate mode...though I don't know how it comes across to you on internet)

    Do I have problems with photographs being put on the internet without people giving their explicit consent? Hell ya! I think that is a privacy violation that I'm not kosher with -

    Do I get annoyed with all the *I want to fuck so & so...* on the internet Ya, I do --

    So what?

    I have the right to my opinions like you do. I don't mind if people disagree but I'm not going to just sit here & suck up to people on threads if I don't agree with a philosophy - even if those people are people I generally admire -
    But the point is I asked a simple question and ironically got condescending insults in return -- which you further prolonged (knowingly or not)--

    Anyway,
    I didn't mean to offend him (or you) if that is what happened.

    but I also won't apologize for having my own opinions about life-

    anyway, goodnight pirate
    I must retire for the night
    Nah, I actually didn't call you any of those things.

    If you go back to what I wrote, you will notice that I was referencing your phrasing in particular, that might have been a potential problem in communication. I absolutely agree with you that you have the right to say whatever, and you dont neccessarily have anything to apologize for. That being said, you are the one wanting to establish a discussion, or resonance of sorts and such a tone I feel is unlikely to mesh well with parky. You seem clueless as to the goings, but aiming for a genuine discussion so I figured I would clarify abit.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    (did you read my 1st post? & no I'm not being condescending-)
    You're being oblivious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    Second, a response post by Parkster criticizing *me* with judgmental insults like "idiotic" and "annoying" --
    No, I wasn't insulting you. I was characterizing the question, not the person. That's just your "emotional reaction to a perception".

    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    Anyway,
    I didn't mean to offend him (or you) if that is what happened.
    You don't seem willing to understand what is happening. You're too full of yourself for that. Or you're completely aware, but enjoy fucking with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solidad View Post
    Do I have problems with photographs being put on the internet without people giving their explicit consent? Hell ya! I think that is a privacy violation that I'm not kosher with -

    Do I get annoyed with all the *I want to fuck so & so...* on the internet Ya, I do --

    So what?
    Take your problems and stick em up your... you know where. But just keep them away from me. I will not show the concern you want to see, and I will not compromise my behavior to suit your obnoxious, self-absorbed ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    It might have helped if you hadn't phrased your response in such a judgementally condescending way.
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    anyway, you got some nice pieces of ass there parkster
    Thanks bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    That being said, you are the one wanting to establish a discussion, or resonance of sorts and such a tone I feel is unlikely to mesh well with parky. You seem clueless as to the goings, but aiming for a genuine discussion so I figured I would clarify abit.
    Which, as you can see, can be of absolutely no use/effect when dealing with people that have their head stuck up their butt, and who are only interested in having their own opinions, beliefs, values, etc. heard and reflected.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Which, as you can see, can be of absolutely no use/effect when dealing with people that have their head stuck up their butt, and who are only interested in having their own opinions, beliefs, values, etc. heard and reflected.
    Amazing... reading this exchange without seeing the usernames next to the posts, I would have been more likely to peg this as ThePirate responding to Parkster. Probably it only seems out of character because I haven't seen much of you... but it's interesting to note that you have the same opinions, just about different things.



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