Does anyone know anything about identical twins and socionics type? Have you ever typed a set of identical twins?
Does anyone know anything about identical twins and socionics type? Have you ever typed a set of identical twins?
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
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you could do a search, this has been discussed a few times on the forums.
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My mother is an identical twin. She is ISFj, and I think my aunt is an ISFj too, although I can't be 100% sure.
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The identical twins I've know (3 couples) were all the same socionics types very clearly (as pairs: they were not all six the same socionics type, only two by two)
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I'm a twin (not identical) and I think my brother is a pretty clear INTj. I also knew two sets of identical twins. The first I didn't get very close to both of them. The one I had some contact with some sort of ExTx, but they superficially seemed to be pretty similar, but that really doesn't mean anything. My sister is currently dating one half of an identical pair. I haven't gotten to know him very well yet, but my first inclincation is that he's ISTx. Again, I don't know the other brother very well so maybe later on down the road I can comment on that.
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yes, I met a pair of fraternal twins, not the same type at all. The girl was beta NF while the guy was gamma or something.
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My roomie is an identical twin and he and his twin are definitely not the same type, lol. I would even go as far as to say that they're from conflicting quadras, despite getting along superbly.
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you're killing it woman.
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I consider it condescending that you would even mention a PoLR hit.
that is real mean.
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You realize duals shouldn't fight?
Except ****** and Stalin, but that is a different story.
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I made a thread about this a while back with pictures of different twins, but can't seem to find it, maybe it was on the other forum. There doesn't seem to be a connection between twins and type. For example the Olsen twins I believe are opposite quadras, Alpha and Gamma. Ashley Olsen is ESFp while Mary-Kate is probably an ISFp
this thread got really goofy really quick... lol
I have some identical twin cousins.... I haven't seen them in a while, but i'm pretty sure one is extraverted while the other is introverted
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
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Yeah, I actually think the twins I was mentioning might be ISFj/ISFp. Unfortunately it's the ISFj twin that I live with. I had originally thought he was ENTj, but in retrospect, it's far more likely that he's ISFj.
What's interesting is that they're ident twins, and they say that most people can't tell them apart visually, but I see a substantial difference between them. Harder when they're younger, but right now I would never confuse them.
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I'm pretty positive I've met 2 sets of twins with pretty different personalities, while i've only met 1 pair (way back in 3rd grade) that acted the same, but, of course, they were pretty young.
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Everyone realizes that type is genetic, but it is undoubtably for some difficult to admit.
It's all sperm and egg variation.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Because in that case we would be capable of engineering type with behavioral conditioning and drug therapy. Have you ever heard of a drug that caused dissociative identity disorder, because DID is exactly what a change in type would entail. (but even that would not be a true type change with regard to the capability of the functions: you can use your PoLR as base, but I don't recommend it).
Just remember that every time you embrace a "could" like that, you give some crazy scientist of the future one more avenue for contesting the pursuit of a real solution, and even worse, you might be opening the door for some really horrific research. Imagine someone being determined to create a typeless "supersoldier", and being so convinced of it being possible that they never stopped trying to do it. That is a scary possibility, because it's the type of thing oppressive governments might buy into. It might look like what the protagonists of 1984 were put through, or worse.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
yes, the consequences of something shouldn't affect your judgement of whether that something is true or not
not necessarily, suppose for example your type is limited, but not uniquely determined, by genes. this still allows for other factors to play a role in determining type without also making it possible that conditioning/drugs could be used to turn someone into any arbitrary type (unless of course the conditioning/drugs affected the limiting factor, in this case the genes)
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Two identical twins must be the same type. To believe otherwise is to question everything we know about the types in general. If you can find two identical twins that are indisputably different socionic types, then you have falsified Socionics.
I actually somewhat agree with Phaedrus on the matter of identical twins being of the same type. Of course they will not act in exactly the same way, though - obviously, as not every person of a given type will act in exactly the same way of other people of that given type.
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I don't understand why the concept of randomness isn't an issue to either of you. There are things that happen in the world that are random. There's no way to know that it isn't completely random. There's no way to know that it isn't related to womb conditions (which would effect twins generally the same but each twin could have slightly different conditions), or fetal size, or the mother's hormones during fetal brain development, or genetics, or some combination. There's absolutely no way to know just what causes it and therefore I don't see the point in making assumptions that it has to be genetic, and not just that but 100% genetic.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Uhm yes, yes it's true. It's just that in my experience they tended to be of the same type, so I tend to think it's like that. Could it be otherwise? Sure. It's just my opinion.
Notice, though, that I've said that identical twins are of the same type - not fraternal. It seems like identical twins tend to be affected exactly in the same way by the things you mention (and that's one of the reason why they're identical).
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