o.o I don't see where ILE is coming from...I guess he's obviously intuitive and seems more irrational, but to me he screams NiFe. Two words: Kurt Cobain.
o.o I don't see where ILE is coming from...I guess he's obviously intuitive and seems more irrational, but to me he screams NiFe. Two words: Kurt Cobain.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
you're all wrong.
look very carefully.
i would buy EIE, but probably not IEI. there's too much factual sort of presence in his communication.
in talking about things, i think the sort of Ni manner of expression is clear in the irony that he gives off, but at the same time he gives off much more of a sense of communicating this by communicating in a very rationalistic sort of fashion. in a sense it's like listening to "i purchased product X at store Y in order to utilize it for purpose Z. i then utilized it sufficiently in order to amortize its value threefold."
i think the general way he speaks is not really focused on producing an emotional reaction so much as communicating the sense of Ni that he sees, which he does humorously, but primarily in a Te way. i think its similar to the way that gamma NTs can communicate; at times i think it can resemble my own communication.
though not 100% convinced by any means, i think ILI is a better guess.
and yes gilly i know you have no absolutely idea what i'm talking about at all. so shut up in advance.
ftr the other guy that was being discussed before my connection collapsed i think might have been EII, maybe ESI.
I would consider him Ti/Fe valuing than anything else.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
What you might be noticing, and maybe why you're thinking Fe base, (I imagine,) is the accent he puts on certain words to 'dramatize' sentences... yeah, a lot of ppl associate that accent with beta NF (lol.) If you listen to what he says though, rather than how he says it...
Also, if you're comparing with Cobain--this guy's speaking a mile a minute... The rapidity of his speech would be a real anomaly among INFps.
I don't know about this guy--no more than you all--but he reminds me of a ENTp friend of mine who is gay--same vocal inflections, same nervous energy.
Nifweed's argument makes some sense to me too--I will re-evaluate in light of it.
Last edited by JuJu; 06-18-2008 at 07:04 PM.
That was a little harsh, Niff. I actually think ILI is plausible, but EIE would be tough for me to see; he seems introverted. However my first guess remains IEI-Ni. He is rather expressive, both tonally and facially, IMO; much moreso than you, for example. The second video casts him in a much more NiFe light, IMO; his use of his living space in the video is not not really geared towards trying to convey useful information or explain his interests or anything of that sort as much as it is giving an "impression" of who he is. That's how I see it, anyways.
Juju I'm not sure that what you're saying about "rapidity of speech" would really have anything to do with how he relates to IEIs. If anything I would see it most likely being most annoying to an Si type.
He also has a sort of "deer in the headlights" look to his eyes that I have always associated with IEIs.
I am pretty confident in IEI for this guy. He reminds me a lot of a girl I have typed as IEI-Ni who I work with at a coffee shop.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I'm not sure what you mean here... How he relates to IEIs? Oh, did you think I was trying to predict how he'd relate to one? I dunno... I was trying to say that I've never heard a IEI talk like that--and also, that the content of what he's saying indicates XNTp...
I think one could make a comparison between his videos here and your video where you're talking about being a lawyer, to be honest... Similar energy.
o.o Really?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I dunno, I'm pretty set on EIE at the moment, so probably not very much there, at least as far as the case for his being ILE goes.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...