SLEs IMO. If you want to hang around them you either have to be ready to fight or slightly masochistic, because theyre always challenging people and provoking them. Truth mirite?
SLEs IMO. If you want to hang around them you either have to be ready to fight or slightly masochistic, because theyre always challenging people and provoking them. Truth mirite?
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No. They are E types and hold positive relations with people/objects. They are not likely to turn you away from conversing with them or getting to know them. They are sociable and gregarious and very nice.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yup, sounds like an SLE to me, good work you two.Harmonizing subtype
(Victor Gulenko) Feels at home in the intermediate fields of production – in trade or management. Is less inquisitive than the logical subtype; Is very sociable, emotional, gregarious. Frequently hospitable
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Haha, gotta hate you EIEs, I mean love - sorry. Typhon you're okay and all that, why don't you both kiss and make up ?
I would love to. I types in one way or another need to get a feeling for the individual they are dealing with and to extract a certain sense or feeling for that individual they may need to poke at the subject in various ways to see how it responds back at them. From such poking they get what information they want, aka Resonance. E types observe and gather data from the individual by objective observational means. They don't need to say inappropriate things until they find that the individual deserves them by reference to specific actions, because they observe actions. Si types, for instance observe internal feelings and get a feel for people and the way to do this is to try to be mean to them and see how the object responds back; not just mean but other emotions too.
E types may say stupid things because they feel like it but that may not be directed at a person or an object with the purpose of extracting how they feel or what position they should hold the individual to/at; unless they know what they are doing consciously.
INFj read into people by mimicry of the individual or certain gesticulations.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think the provocation talked about by Typon is Fe seeking. Not introversion.
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The term "dangerous" alone is not easy to define, there are different ways of being dangerous. SLEs (as an example) could be considered more dangerous in the way of physical fights. I think you might have thought this. EIEs on the other handside might dedicate their lives to fight what they hate (like ******) which is actually much more dangerous but not as personal as the first example. There are many other ways to do harm to people, that's why I think every type has the potential to be very dangerous because they're all able to use their abilities against someone. The ways and means will be probably quite different.
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– Arthur Schopenhauer
IME SLE's are the most likely to be confrontational / ready for fisty-cuffs
but I don't think they are at all the most dangerous.
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Was gonna say 'I can't help it that I get in fights all the time ' until I saw this:
which made me feel better...
I do look back on times I have started arguments, fights... and my friends and I always look back, as it being some of the most important times for us... getting out information about other people, just basically getting stuff out in the open.
I think holding stuff in is unhealthy. Sometimes provoking others, or opening up yourself and telling 100% how you think, is important.
Not sure if we're the most "dangerous" of all the types, or if that's even a title I want... I mean, yeah, sounds cool and all. But maturely, I try to be respectful. If someone gives me crap though, I don't hesitate to fight and stick up for myself. Maybe I jump the gun a bit, but oh well.
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I don't like the fact I'm contributing to this thread because I think certain types get off on being thought of as dangerous, SLE's, for example but I just think they try too hard...it's very obvious to me and makes them just look insecure. EIE get's my vote.
I'll vote for any types that naturally think and plan several steps ahead - which means no SLE
Disclaimer: I have not yet identified any SLE in real life but merely going by stereotypes as explained by other members of this forum.
Last edited by Ozz; 03-05-2011 at 07:16 PM.
EIE>SLE for most dangerous.
I so love Gloria from Modern Family. I cannot stop laughing when she gets angry. did anyone notice this last episode when Manny told Jay that the reason Gloria married him was because she had finally met a worthy opponent (maybe not the exact words)? Textbook beta duality!
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I do this all the time, poke people in various ways to see what they're gonna do. (Occasionally, I will LITERALLY poke them, but usually I don't do that unless I know them very well and am teasing or emphasizing a point.) But figurative poking when I'm trying to figure someone out, yes. And sometimes I'm mean to see what will happen but only if I care. If not, I don't bother.
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yup, Gilly would have to be the female in that scenario. lol!
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idk, if we're talking about danger in the Beta sense I'd think it would be more divided by the rational vs irrational clubs.
I could see Beta rational's falling more so into "righteous evil" believing that they're inherently right in their actions and in many cases doing a service to humanity (i.e. ******, some cult leaders).
Beta irrationals I'd imagine would fall more into "careless evil", that is doing what one wants and ignoring everything else even if others are hurt in the process (i.e. Al Capone, other gangs and mobs)
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a bipolar ENFj, probably.
I take your last pic as a bad joke, what no Bush too?
Let's add some Wall St/corporate Cons (surely some LIE's to be found there), Weapon and Drug lords,corrupt religous leaders, charlatans etc to round out this beta heavy list (principally SLE, LSI and EIE you choose). I don't think Gulenko would like not having his power types all represented (SLE, LSI, EIE,LIE,ILI,SEE) (half joking)
Oh a few more SLE's and LSEs i suppose
Alexander the Great SLE
Ceasar (SEE, SLE, LIE)?
Genghis Khan ??LSE??
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