Like that Bear Grylls guy...that sort of situation. Who would survive best out of the types? And worst?
And did anyone ever figure out what that guy's type is?
Like that Bear Grylls guy...that sort of situation. Who would survive best out of the types? And worst?
And did anyone ever figure out what that guy's type is?
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No man would survive without proper training beforehand.
An LII clearly.
Regardless, I'd want to be packing one anyway so I don't go mad.
Hmm. By surviving, I thought you meant, living, as in, getting the things you need to survive, and eventually making your way "home", all by yerself.
EII.
Certainly not! If nobody's conveniently located, we wouldn't go looking for anyone. Might wind up finding an SLE, and that would be a difficult partnership. I suppose we may begin a quick trip to insanity, since the word "quick" has no specific measurement and, depending on point of view, could mean 5-10 years.
An SLI could survive on an island like an IEE could survive at the mall.
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Wait... I don't think I get this... Malls make me want to gouge my eyes out. Soooo you can't survive on a desert island?
IEE
You people are funny.
I wish I could only be so lucky to get dropped off on a deserted island for a couple months. That's one of my dreams in life.
In my opinion, it would be: ST > NT > SF > NF
Quaero Veritas.
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I've never known an LSE who wanted someone else to do their job while they sit on their asses, but whatever. I've known some LSI's and SLI's who do this to an extent
I kind of agree with Krigs assessment, though I'd think ESE's and SEE's would deal with primal survival a bit better than LII's and ILI's
So, yah, ST>NT/SF>NF
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Yeah, that's a tricky question. I think LIIs would know what to do to survive long-term, but might have difficulty actually doing it. ESEs might not know what to do, but could actually do it if they did know. So basically what I'm saying is that they need each other to survive.
Which raises an interesting question, actually -- are there any dual pairs who would have a better chance of surviving than other dual pairs? Or does each dual pair balance out so well that they could all survive equally well?
Quaero Veritas.
Fuck you guys. I'm on a deserted island right now, using the neighboring island's wifi on my Macoconutbook Pro.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Man, I don't want to be biased here, but maybe you can come to work at my place and see how LSE will sit in the office and does nothing. Also, while LSI can definity be asses, in working situations, I think they are work oriented, it is what they are essentially born for. it is also this perfectionism streak that they have that makes them a dick also. I want to take the biased bullshit away and not saying that becuase they are my dual. LSE definity has traits better than LSI but this isn't one of them if you compare the mass percentage of LSI vs LSE.
Are you sure they're LSE or that they're actually not doing something in their office?
LSI's are more orientated towards doing as much work that needs to be done and that's that
"This is especially apparent when the LSI stops work because there is enough money in the household without the LSIs income."
My LSI father, for instance, is a dependable worker and a good provider but when his shift is done he has no desire to do more than that, except on a few occasions when coworkers needed help.
When he's talked about work he seems more preoccupied with people doing things correctly and sensibly. He'll also go to work when he's sick or in pain/injured.
But after work, he wants to relax, even if there's things that need to be done at home.
This has been my observation of LSI's in general. They're dependable people and will endure a lot to get the job done, but they don't care about
LSE's seem to differ in that they need to be in constant motion, always doing something. Not to say that I don't think they're not bossy as well as productive, but being able to relax when things need to get done is something that they can't seem to do, at least in my experience. This is one of the things that EII's seem to help them with, to relax as well as getting them to stop jumping down peoples throats to "work work work".
They don't seem to understand that not everybody has the energy, or will, to always be producing something 100% of the time
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Yeah, LSE's can be lazy too. I've known LSE's who work hard and LSE's who spend all day sitting on their asses doing as little as possible, then going to the pub talking about how great they are, or chatting up some women.
That LSE's can't be lazy or that they always have to be doing things is just some sort of stereotype, maybe even almost MBTI.
Although this is technically true, I used to work for an LSE who said to me that he can't expect everyone to produce their best 100% every day, that everyone has off days, another one who was under a lot of pressure himself and tried to squeeze people for productivity every day. Although there may be some trends, experience personality and therefore people as individuals are different and are all contributing factors.Originally Posted by marie84
On a functional level, if Te is involved in maximising productivity, then it could also translate to why do more than is necessary, cause that's not productive either.
Any type, especially logical types can comment on people doings things correctly or sensibly as by how they see it, why couldn't LSE's be good workers, go into work when sick, and be providers too?Originally Posted by marie84
I'm curious why this couldn't be LSE also, let's say once the works done then an Si type would enjoy relaxing and taking some what could well be said some, "Si" time out - ie, hey man we've worked now it's time for play or relaxing or chilling or w/e etc.But after work, he wants to relax, even if there's things that need to be done at home.
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If my ESI grandfather was stuck on a deserted island I would leave him there. I would figure since he thinks he knows so damn much he can get himself off the island. Same goes with my best friend's ESI mom. Not to mention if I saved them I would have to deal with their harassment about how it took so long, how they could have done it better in my shoes, how it rained every day, etc etc etc UGH. No thanks.
My vote is definitely SLI. Champions of hermit and practicality. I'm pretty sure LSEs could pull it off too for a similar reason. Only concern would be that they might not sit the fuck down when they need to rest and not dehydrate.
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I love everyone's input! very entertaining thread
I like the idea of SLIs being so awesome at this. However, my SLI bf and I were watching that bear guy on TV, and he said his Si would prevent him from doing most of the things required. Such as sleeping on a raft. He'd prefer something "comfy" and would be like "something's poking me."
I don't think he'd stand much of a chance on that island...
not that I would either!
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Si bases would suck in survival situations. They're all gross and uncomfortable. And eating worms? Hell no.
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Survival situations are gross and uncomfortable. But you could argue that I am too, sometimes.
i would have to say, SLI. practical sort. they sometimes don't look it but they can teach themselves all kinds of practical stuff from scratch and have the temperament to deal with being stuck alone someplace. trust me, not LII, unless previously trained in survival in the wild. biology dictates a speed by which you need to learn things in situations like that, or you die. unless we get a starter pack of food and stuff to provide us the time, we'd take too long. hence why, as an LII, i took the strategic decision of obtaining an SLI for myself.
it is true that he hates being in grossy situations, BUT, when it comes down to it, he can. with SLIs, you have to distinguish what they *like* and what they *can*.
Haha
Hopefully I have done enough mock survival activities in my life to know something about survival lol. I've done a couple of those you have x, y, and z items which is most important in the current situation and list them in order. Of course if we are going by natural strength of types... I can hope that my many close friends I have made will all be searching for me and prodding the government not to give up.
In all reality, I don't know if I could survive. It's highly dependent on the environment. Is there any source of fresh water or does rain much? I don't know if I could eat much as I am picky but you can go without eating for a long time. Are there many animals attempting to eat me? I don't know if I could fend of a panther or something.
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I can survive 50 hours behind my computer without sleeping.
Any type is able to survive using it's own method