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    Exclamation Please type me socionics peoplez :3

    Block I - Te

    1. What is work in your opinion? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters where you can distinguish whether you can do this work or not?

    Work is anything you would not be doing without compensation.

    People work to survive.

    I can't handle work I am not mentally and physically fit for, like theoretical physicist, or a marine. As for middle range, anything with too much paperwork and mindless data would make me commit suicide.

    2. How do people determine the quality of work? How do you determine such quality? How well you can determine the quality of any purchase, do you pay any attention to it?

    High quality work is seen trough the high quality end product of said work. By people in general and me. What our biases are is another matter.

    Quality of purchase is determined trough -high quality'n'quantity/-low cost ratio.

    3. There is a professional right next to you. You always see that you can't perform the way they do. Your feelings, thoughts and actions?

    I'm glad to meet specialists. They make our society a better place and are a sign of prosperity. I enjoy the fact that they are around me as it brings out feelings of reverence and appreciation. I am inclined to ask them about their jobs in order to learn and get to know them as people to see what kind of person goes into said profession.

    4. If you struggle to do something, what can you say about such a task? Tell us your next steps and give examples. Compare with actions of others in a similar situation.

    Depends on the point of task. Struggling to do something meaningful/useful (like say running 5 miles, writing a story) makes me determined and passionate.

    Struggling with pointless nonsense makes me drop it/procrastinate. (like learning 500 pages of human anatomy, 90% of which I'll never use)

    5. You need to build a pyramid exactly like in Egypt. Your thoughts, feelings and actions?

    If they gave me money, I hire smart people to plan it for me and skilled people to build it for me.
    If no money, I sit on the sand, cry and get kidnapped...



    Block II - Ti

    1. General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean? Give examples.

    General speaks about the majority. It's the (general) rule. "Humans have legs."
    The specific is one unit. Can be an exception, but tends to follow the rule. "This particular human has no legs."

    From general, we make assumptions about the specific, from the specific we make general rules...


    2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view? Is it is easy for you to be logical?

    Logical is anything that follows rules of logic. Exp: If every a is b, and b always leads to c, then every a leads to c.

    Common view is common sense. Logic is not it. Logic is math of thought, common sense is often reason as a whole.

    logic + understanding of meaning = reason

    Yes it is easy for me to be logical.


    3. What is hierarchy? Give examples of hierarchies. Do you need to follow it? Why or why not? Give example of hierarchy of systems, what is it?

    A ranking system of agreed upon value. Like rich and poor, rewarded athletes in the Olympics, students and professors...

    I don't have a choice in being in a hierarchy if I wish to participate in any community that expects me to engage in their activities (making money, doing sports, engaging with science).
    No one can remove themselves from a hierarchy because a hierarchy is there to reward success and punish failure thus making a society prosper. You'd have to be a delusional hippy to think you can just ignore one and it'll make it disappear.

    4. Choose one of the following tasks and give a detailed answer. Explain your choice.
    If A is not B, and B is not C, therefore A is C. Is it correct? Why?


    I am not given a positive statement so I don't know what A can be and what B can be. We call that unknown set of each, because we don't know if their sets contain the same value, we only know they both don't contain B.

    A = unknown set1 - B
    B = unknown set2 - C or C = unknown set2 - B

    if I presume A = C

    unknown set1 - B = unknown set2 - B <=> unknown set1 = unknown set2 (translation: I DON'T KNOW if the two sets are the same, so dunno if A=C.)


    5. Do you frequently feel the need to structure information? For what purpose? How do people usually do it? How do you do it?

    Yes I need to structure it. For the purpose of not sounding like an idiot and not living my life without rhyme or reason.

    People compartmentalize life's input into sections that have different thinking standards applied to them.
    For example: compartment "Religion" has faith and feeling applied to input, while the compartment "Job" has a cost benefit analysis applied to input.

    I do the same.



    Block III - Se

    1. Can you press people? What methods do you use? If so, how does it happen?

    I don't put pressure on people directly. I don't have the heart to ever apply the force I could use if I went rouge, and most people have more force than me anyway. Also, long term this is not a smart approach as it makes people lift their guard and I don't want to do this all the time...

    I use positive incentive. Making them want what I can give them if they do what I want, then subtly threatening to take it away. <3
    And indirect pressure. I have a knack for manipulating people by subtly planting ideas in their heads that lead them to believe they want to do the things I intended they do.

    2. Are there strategies of attack? Can you use them? When is it justified? Do you think it's ok to occupy someone else's territory? In what situations?

    There is no need to have a whole strategy of attack if you maintain your boundaries and standards. This will filter all the sociopaths and morons out, so someone you would have to ACTUALLY attack will never be an issue.

    If I should fail in maintaining and I have no one to protect me when I do, I sink to my opponent's level, then lower, and hit back twice as hard. The fucked up shit I can think of, but would never have heart to do would have to be done...

    You can occupy another's territory only when in position of authority. Authority is power that you are given to care for and protect others. Like police, or parents, or tax collectors. They intrude on your territory to make the society run, the child healthy, the city safe...


    3. How do you protect yourself and your interests?

    Intuitive assessment, unbreakable boundaries and morals, charm, rapport with others, objective value making people need me.


    4. Describe your behavior in the situations of opposition and if you have to use some force?

    I am scared, excited, I appear to be calm standing firmly in my place and all of my aggression is entirely faked, employed only to meet the aggression of my opponent. It is not created with the incentive to "win right now", it is created with intention of deterring the person from fucking with me in the future.


    5. Do others think of you as a strong person? Do you think you are a strong person?

    Others think I'm strong, some think I am not. I'm sensitive, frail, cute-gentle looking, so mostly no.
    I don't think I'm a strong person either. Merely a frail person who knows how to put the pieces back together really quickly.


    Block IV - Si


    1. What is beauty? Do you change your opinion about beauty? Does your understanding correlate with the generally accepted notion? What goes beyond the generally accepted notion?

    I once heard a definition of beauty I really liked: Beauty is something everyone will find pleasing, without the strict desire to posses it.
    Other than that, this is to broad of a topic to give classifications.

    Anything that resonates with my soul is beauty to me.

    2. Is there a template of understanding what beautiful means for everyone to use? Is there such a term as "classic beauty"? If so, what is it?

    There are general beauty standards that people in majority respond positively to across time and culture, mostly when these beauty standards that creates something more enjoyable than other alternatives. Something harmonious.

    It is a manifestation of virtue.

    (a perfectly trained ballet dancer showing perfect harmony of movement to enchant us in a story, or a beautiful fit body displaying virtues of discipline and education, a symmetrical, big eyed, feminine face displaying health and fertility, a painting where each color and movement of the brush had its place...)

    3. How do you create your comfort and coziness? How do others evaluate your skill in doing so? Do you agree with them?

    Comfort for me is found in the proximity of people I love in a clean, aired, warm, orderly, smaller space with comfy, yet pretty(girly) clothes on and fuzzy carpets, wooden surfaces all around. Others think I should open windows more, but I don't want to be cold.

    4. How do you pick your own clothes? Do you follow fashion? Why? Do you know how to select clothes for different types of figures?

    Body type + fashion + color matching + design combinations + taste.
    I don't follow fashion into detail, but modernize my look while insisting on my personal taste.

    I've advised friends, but been given advice. I'm ok but meh.

    5. Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself or trust someone else to do it? Why?

    I have some skill to make it look nice, but it's not my forte.




    Block V - Fe

    1. Is it acceptable to express emotions in public? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

    Absolutely. More people express themselves, more they connect. Those who refrain remain empty and alone. As many environments as possible should be permeated with emotion, even professional ones as far as said profession allows it.

    2. Think of such negative emotional states as sadness, gloom, and despondence. Can you, at your own will, enter these states? If not, then when do you feel them? How long can you stay in such states? How can you withdraw from them? Can they be pleasant, soothing? How do you feel after you have experienced them?

    I'm extra sensitive during PMS and I can cry almost on Q. Just think sad thoughts.
    Normally, I can't cry on purpose, but I can bring myself down if I give it time.

    If I am brought to tears while praying, while letting go of something, while forgiving, I feel relief and elation.
    If I am brought to tears while sinking into my pain feeling hopeless, I feel tired and hollow after.

    3. How quickly can you change emotional state? To what side – positive or negative?

    I'm quite emotionally reactive. Push my buttons and I'll switch from one to another.

    4. What emotional state is usual for you? Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?

    Normally I'm smiling and amused by people. Generally cheerful. And it's honest because others bring that out of me. I can be sad, but seeing people I respond to them and change mood.

    5. Tell us about your moods over the last day.

    Neutral in the morning over my ex checking up on me again, and work to be done, happy in the afternoon for test well done and fun group outing with colleagues, nervous and sad over one of them mockingly teasing me- calling me crazy, surprised with myself for being nervous over something so dumb. Happy in the evening over hanging out online with friends and family and relaxing.




    Block VI - Fi

    1. Tell us, how did you build relationships with others over the last day?

    Battled a female friend in a phone game over bluetooth, teased her for losing, got teased back when loosing, hugged goodbye and smiled. Talked to male classmates, bantered and laughed with them, shared stories about other people we hang out with. Called their soccer talk boring before leaving the hang out, making it out as if I was bored by them. Made them "beg" me and friend to return. Arranged a hang out soon with friend. Planned a mafia organisation with brother and common friend in Facebook comment section, sent dumb hearts to few people, told the guy I am considering as a bf I admire his hardworking spirit when he contacted me late after being done with work, while gently sending him away so I can finish answering these.

    2. What is sympathy? When do you need to express it? When is it advised not to? How do you express it?

    Feeling what another person feels. You express it when someone wants to be understood, you restrain it when someone is dangerous for your mental health overall. People who need to leave your life use sympathy to latch onto you. It can be dangerous.

    You listen, you feel and you stay there intuiting what the person needs you to do. Sometimes they even need you to gtfo.

    3. Are there any standards of behavior or interpersonal relationships in the society? If so, do you adhere to them? Do people always have to maintain them? Why?

    Yes, it's called manners and civilized behavior. I do adhere to them, they exist to make as many people as possible enjoy my presence, or not be bothered by it at least.
    Personal relationships that are very intimate run on feeling and intimate understanding of one another, so these rules can be broken in close relationships with no issue.

    4. What does moral mean? What is immoral? How do you understand these terms and does your understanding correlate with the others? How can you evaluate the correctness of your own understanding?

    Morality is a standard of behavior aimed to make me virtuous, thus ensure a happier life as well as spiritual and emotional well being.
    Immoral behavior is breaking of standards your soul, emotions and reason tell you is right. It leads to lessening of quality of one's life, if not, then those around them, effecting them by proxy later on.

    I don't have certainty about my morality, but I do have a set morality I adhere to, for lack of a better alternative if there is one.

    5. Somebody is giving you a negative attitude – what is your reaction? Could you show your own negative attitude toward someone else? If so, how? Could you feel ill-disposed towards somebody for a long time? How easily do you forgive people?

    If the person is someone I respect and whose respect I desire, I gently repair the issue between us. If the person is someone I don't respect, or someone simply too young to respect, I teasingly ridicule their negative attitude and/or ignore it, not showing I see it as something that matters at all.

    I never feel ill-disposed to someone for a long time. I forgive fast.



    Block VII - Ne

    1. Is there a meaning of life? In what? Is it the same for everybody?

    You can imagine meaning to your life to be many things, but until you speak to God himself, you cannot know where it is all headed and why you, here, like this, right now.

    2. When you meet a stranger, what can you say about them right away? How do you know what this person is all about? Does it take long to understand someone's traits?

    Someone's traits are a bit harder to gauge completely, but their motivations are often readily apparent. Many say them quickly if you know how to listen.

    3. 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.' (Albert Einstein). What is the core of stupidity? Explain the reason for its infinity. How does thinking of a fool differ?

    Stupidity is a combination of laziness, arrogance and lack of mental capacity. Too lazy to research what they know, to arrogant to question how they think and lacking in mental capacity even if they could research and question.

    4. Truth, half-truth and lie: where is the borderline between these concepts? Are "pure" states possible, and how can collection of true facts turn into lies?

    There is only one truth. Half-truths are nothing but lies by omission.
    True facts create lies, when used for dishonest reasons. I can desire to be the authority on truth and use true facts about science to dishonestly dismiss all thought but empirical thought while presenting myself as a philosopher. (look at Dawkins)

    5. Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good. What's your attitude towards this statement?

    Ideas are not a matter of "correct", but possible. It's true, but an unnecessary statement.



    Block VIII - Ni

    1. How do people change? How do you feel about those changes? Can others see the changes?

    People change when punishment for bad behavior and reward of prospective love are BOTH at the same time, strong enough to allow them to face themselves and move in the right direction, while at the same time being gently lifted on their feet if they've been too broken to move.

    2. What is time? How do you feel time? Can you waste time?

    Time is the most precious resource we have. I feel time presuming how fast it's running out, but I'm sometimes wrong. It slips trough my fingers when I get lost in my world.

    I can waste time for sure, but looking back I never feel I've wasted time. I feel grateful for all the bad things that happened because they too made me better than I was.

    3. Do you need help creating forecasts and determining how something will end? Do you trust those forecasts?

    I often see the end to many things even before they start. I trust my presumptions because I'm often right.

    4. Are you normally late? How do you react if someone is late?

    I am often late and I'm forgiving of others who are late as well. I overestimate how much time I need to do things I intend to do, because I overestimate my motivation to do them fast.

    5. Tell us your thoughts on the topic of "Influence of fortune on my life.”

    I don't think there is a luck in that sense. More like a cosmic karma binding all things into one, evening everything out. Maybe God?
    Whatever it is, all luck and lack of it seems to me to have a certain meaning that is life's way of offering us a limited number of paths to walk, while not inhibiting our free will over whether or not we are going to walk them. We are ALL far too bound into one for randomness to be entirely random.
    Last edited by lilac; 06-11-2016 at 03:19 AM.

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