its being duked out in the chatbox. i'm bringing it to the mainstream
@hkkmr @mikemex @Reficulris @Johannes Bloem @Inguz
its being duked out in the chatbox. i'm bringing it to the mainstream
@hkkmr @mikemex @Reficulris @Johannes Bloem @Inguz
you just opened pandora's box on all the unsuspecting visitors of this lovely and peacefull forum....
Rip the16types.info
What is this lunacy?
Last edited by Kim; 12-12-2013 at 08:32 PM.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
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seems like a logical type and def. intuitive
Ti-ILE.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
Who on earth is trying to say he's IEE?
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I wanna see a Youtube video.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
oh common! It could be fun to type him as an IEE.
Let's try to behave as if he was untill the end of the year! Maybe that feels much better! Find your relationship type to the new and improved? HKKMR and act out your favorite fantasy!
I think we should conduct more sound, emperical research like the experiment I just described to give socionics some real...credible...measurable...boring facts and a lot of nice, bloody stories!
That, or we should have a battle of the babes style episode with HKKMR and JohBlo duking it out during christmas eve! That'd make my decembermonth!
Me as a bunny, VI plz
(plz don't quote)
Blurrrdy
I clearly see SE manifested in HKKMR burglar mode!
I propose the following sollution to our problem:
@hkkmr has 16 different personalities, each of which can come out at whim and take full control of his body. Thus, as we've clearly seen SE favouring SLE mode and the FE favouring EIE mode it is reasonably to assume that we'll see many many more sides of HKKMR in the near future!
Such as NakedCookTm SEI mode
BrokeBackHKKMR SLI mode
feel free to predict his violent personality changes!
I predict a mode in which he wears a christmas hat, possibly IEI since those seem generous
Interesting. The burgler archetype is obviously SLI. With which costume do you identify more? You're either EIE or SLI. Because they're conflictor it shouldn't be to hard to figure out unless it's something shizoid
You're terribly wrong . The Burgler type (SLI-Te) is ignoring Se he only uses Se as last option especially the amercan burgler because of the Stand Your Ground stuff. Another argument against Se is that the burgler must have Tein his Ego-Block because he uses gadgets and is driven by utilitarianism and greed. As you might now Se can not be in the Ego-Block paired with Te.
But maybe it's Se mobilizing and and the bunny was LIE and not EIE
edit: my pictures are weird...
Hi, guys... want to be friends?
...what a weird thread. Lol.
I particularly like the emo style hkkmr picture with the chinese pop star hair.
First off I want to establish that I do see you as a 3w4 and base.
Now comes the fun part. You are very much - and -PoLR. I say this because of how you explain the theory. Since you are 3w4, a competent type in the enneagram, it is very clear that you are well read on the subject and that you remember what is what very well. What I do not see however is in any way, shape or form. As it can be seen in this thread where I asked you for explanations you very much resorted to explaining things surrounding my actual question but did never give me anything that I could understand being -seeking and -PoLR. It seems to me that we never actually 'connected' in rationale, mine confused you and yours confused me. It was never clear to me what was the actual theory (-heavy since it was created by an ILE after all) and your continuing fluid rationale connecting and explaining the circumstances or how one thing moves to another is very clear while I was looking for the opposite, the static view of the theory () and how well it actually applies to people based on actual behavior (-).
Since you are in fact a 3w4 I do have full understanding that you and seemingly everyone else considers you to be T-ego while I am looking at which logic IM it is that you actually prefer, and to me it is very clear that you value way more than .
If he's IEE then I'm packing up my shit and going back to beta.
Easy Day
Comeon I gave you the most TI answer possible..
"Democracy in socionics is within the realm of NT's(researchers) and SF's(socials), this is quite a bit different than pragmatists and humanitarians."
Democracy = SF + NT's
Aristocracy = NF + ST's
Same thing! Model A and structure based explanation. The rest of my post is telling you I won't go into specifics.
Also I focus on the static structure while devaluing the shift in trend. This is devaluing and affirming.
"It's very hard to go into specifics about this because concepts of Aristocracy and Democracy evolve and change, while imo the club differences are something of a driving force in the evolution."
Devalue the dynamic, focus on static differences.
What you think is is those are my intuitions about the topic, not referenced anywhere or substantiated by empirical research. As far as in me. I'm a 4d type which which would lead me to communicate in a business like fashion. I'm not going to be giving you communication personalized.
"have found in literature and what is your personal view of it"
You asked for that, you can be sure I will ignore you because it's more or less meaningless. You think what I say comes from literature, it doesn't, most of what I say is my intuitions and deductions via Model A, and I will indicate something came from literature if I do use it. It's my understanding of it based on everything i know.
At least it can be established that your is poor.
And I think that you do not go into specifics because of -PoLR.
The thing is though, in a based structure the concept remains the same and can be applied regardless of "evolve and change". The meaning of the words "Aristocracy" and "Democracy" may very well change over time, but, a big but, the dichotomy that Reinin created does not change. If it did change then there's little to no purpose in creating these structures to begin with as they would be washed away like a sandcastle close to the waves of the ocean.Also I focus on the static structure while devaluing the shift in trend. This is devaluing and affirming.
"It's very hard to go into specifics about this because concepts of Aristocracy and Democracy evolve and change, while imo the club differences are something of a driving force in the evolution."
Devalue the dynamic, focus on static.
Did that render my request for definitions unreasonable?What you think is is those are my intuitions about the topic, not referenced anywhere or substantiated by empirical research. As far as in me. I'm a 4d type which which would lead me to communicate in a business like fashion. I'm not going to be giving you communication personalized.
This is my understanding of your type based on everything that I know. Since you did not reply to my question earlier in the thread yet participated in it then I assumed that you would be ok with it."have found in literature and what is your personal view of it"
You asked for that, you can be sure I will ignore you because it's more or less meaningless. You think what I say comes from literature, it doesn't, most of what I say is my intuitions and deductions via Model A, and I will indicate something came from literature if I do use it. It's my understanding of it based on everything i know.
I do not think that most of what you say comes from literature since it is a mix of theory, personal observations, deductions and guesswork with some overarching idea of how it all comes together. I had trouble understanding it and as such asked for clarifications in order to avoid ambiguous blanket terms weak in its definitions (heavily devalued ).
Maybe it is. Care to explain why?At least it can be established that your is poor.
@hkkmr How do you feel about LSE?
Every single IE demonstrates in combination with the seven other IEs.
E.g ESE is different from EIE I also think that this is pretty useless http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Dmitry-Golihov
So you might not like so much his -creative in combination with -base because your Ne-ignoring
But you get hit by his 4d demonstrative
IEIs are primed for receiving and understanding Result-Ti which only comes from negativist types such as LII and SLE. It's a 'debugger' type of Ti logic which specializes in working out and resolving internal problems or inconsistencies within any theory or system and eliminating parts that compromise it. This is what you requested in that thread: "these dichotomies don't work (are problematic), should we get rid of them?" Positivist types like LSIs or ILEs despite having Ti in their ego block can only provide you with Process-Ti, which instead of 'debugging' and 'weeding out' is set to adding and growing the complexity of reasoning. This kind of logic isn't going to make a 'connection' to how you understand things. On the other hand an LSI attested that hkkmr explains socionics in the way that was clear to that person, since their logical functions are similar. IEIs and ILEs exist in very different informational streams (benefit and supervision rings), hence the inherent fuzziness of communication in mirage relations.