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    Quote Originally Posted by The Egbert Human View Post
    Temperament.

    IP: nothing has changed so far, but it will, and that's fine. The world/self is seen as changing. Since things outside the self change, the IP adapts, changing themselves.

    EP: nothing has changed so far, and that bothers me, I need to change things. The world is seen as mutable, but things haven't changed, so the EP changes them.

    IJ: nothing has changed so far, and that's fine, I don't want them to change. The world/self is seen as static, with potential for change; deviations are seen as blips on the radar and things will go back to how they always have been. The IJ rides out the storms and continues as they always have been.

    EJ: things are changing, and it's for the worst, so I need to bring things back on track. The world is seen as changing, usually not for the better, so the EJ exerts their Base function to change things to what they're meant to be.

    It's a result of the interaction of extraversion/introversion and rational/irrational (and thus static/dynamic). Gilly is right. Go read socionics.us. There's a lot of useful bits and pieces there, which are all fully-functional building blocks for creating theory-kosher complex structures (just look at Gulenko's forms of thought, for instance).

    Above taken from Expat through a friend of mine, AFAIA.
    I agree with this. Though this is not what I am proposing.

    As nil said: "Self" essentially refers to one's perception towards himself in relation to the world.

    Dynamic outlook implies a stationary Self.
    Static outlook implies a moving Self.

    It's basic physics - relativity.
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    My proposal is rooted in the Model A.

    Perhaps the most important function dichotomy is mental/vital, sometimes called conscious/unconscious. The functions in the mental ring (functions 1, 2, 3, and 4) strive to verbalize information and formulate observations and form the core of the individual's intellectual activity. On the other hand, the functions in the vital ring (functions 5, 6, 7, and 8) tend to manifest themselves without words in the process of doing things or inadvertently in the form of spontaneous sentiments.
    The conscious functions can only be all Static or Dynamic, in return, the unconscious function can only be all Dynamic or all Static.
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    The aspects of your life that are vital to your Self, are assumed to be Static or unchanging if you are a Dynamic type.

    The aspects of your life that are vital to your Self are assumed to be Dynamic or moving if you are a Static type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    The aspects of your life that are vital to your Self, are assumed to be Static or unchanging if you are a Dynamic type.

    The aspects of your life that are vital to your Self are assumed to be Dynamic or moving if you are a Static type.
    I cannot say whether or not this is consistent with the theory, but it is most certainly consistent with me and my self-typing.

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    lol he has just re-discovered the MBTI judgers vs perceivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    lol he has just re-discovered the MBTI judgers vs perceivers
    I'm not regarding Pe = P and Je = P. I am only working with Static/Dynamic functions in regards to their position in the Consciousness(Ego+SuperEgo) and Unconsciousness(SuperId+Id).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    The aspects of your life that are vital to your Self
    what does that phrase even mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    what does that phrase even mean?
    The aspects of your vital functions. SuperId+Id aspects.

    For example, I am ILI. The aspects of my life that are vital to my Self are SeFi+TiNe aspects.
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    Not what Vital means. The Vital ring is defined as the suppressed side of your Mental elements. As such one only processes Vital elements when the environment specifically produces those aspects.

    EDIT

    You can think of Mental/Vital as Active/Reactive. The HA gets a little bit tricky there though because it requires very little prompt before the individual starts engaging it, but it's almost always used as a response to some external environmental stimulus, even something as minor as someone asking an open-ended question or in some way producing a small piece of that information aspect (cue LIIs and their health/comfort rants at the drop of a pin; or my long-winded analyses of physical and psychological phenomena).

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