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    The Civil War was an African victory, if anything.
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    1940, Ryan, Oklahoma --- occurance of the greatest american victory


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    The Civil War was an African victory, if anything.
    The American Civil War was a victory for protectionism and big government. Slavery -- contrary to the popular historical perception -- was not even a corollary to the conflict, and hardly the central tenet of the Confederacy's attempt to secede from the Union, nor was it the North's main battle cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    The American Civil War was a victory for protectionism and big government. Slavery -- contrary to the popular historical perception -- was not even a corollary to the conflict, and hardly the central tenet of the Confederacy's attempt to secede from the Union, nor was it the North's main battle cry.

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    They teach that in junior year of high school I remember, and I remember my teacher told us to forget all the bullshit you have heard about the civil war by the past history teachers you had, because that was what they preach in elementary level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    The American Civil War was a victory for protectionism and big government. Slavery -- contrary to the popular historical perception -- was not even a corollary to the conflict, and hardly the central tenet of the Confederacy's attempt to secede from the Union, nor was it the North's main battle cry.

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    Even if it wasn't the main point of the war, it was a victorious side effect for colored folk. I did not mean to imply that it had anything to do with why they were fighting. Actually, I guess I can't even call it a side effect if it's not related. Meh.
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    Everyone knows that the only just war is the Rebellion vs. the Galactic Empire. Everything else just doesn't measure up to its epicness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    What are you rolling your eyes for? Your country managed to abolish slavery peacefully. This would have been the natural course for America, as well, had Lincoln not been the warmongering, extortionist fuck that he was. That son of a bitch was a big link in a long chain of reasons why the American Federal government is as overblown, centralized, and inefficient as it is today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    What are you rolling your eyes for? Your country managed to abolish slavery peacefully. This would have been the natural course for America, as well, had Lincoln not been the warmongering, extortionist fuck that he was. That son of a bitch was a big link in a long chain of reasons why the American Federal government is as overblown, centralized, and inefficient as it is today.
    Why did it take the US so long to abolish slavery considering that its Constitution talks about all men being born free and equal, etc. etc.? These rights were clearly not being upheld at the time of the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Why did it take the US so long to abolish slavery considering that its Constitution talks about all men being born free and equal, etc. etc.? These rights were clearly not being upheld at the time of the Civil War.
    because it's all about politics, just because one things says "all men born free" doesn't mean millions of people would give up slavery (their asset). happens all the time throughout history and everywhere.
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    The way I heard it, there was a split on how to interpret the constitution as well. Many in the south argued that the right to own property was an unalienable right. Whereas there was an ideological split as far back as the founding fathers over whether to grant as much protection to property rights.

    The original phrasing of the Virgina Declaration of Rights even included the pursuit of property, but Jefferson and Franklin were both in agreement to replace it with "the pursuit of Happiness," instead. Franklin himself was strong proponent of taxation.

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    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

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