Ashton: SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/sp

[Mediator Kam]

What, because I dislike being talked about and having to deal with mischaracterizations of me? Yeah, that sounds great.

I felt the same way when people doubted my self-typing. Come join SEI. We have cookies.

[Jarno]

LIE-Ni fits pretty well I think.

[Wynch]

It may wish to be noted by whomever takes an interest that in the original poll there were 4 votes for gamma that I had to delete in order to expand the poll options. It's probably safe to assume that those votes were for LIE

[Blaze]

my opinion of ashton's type is not a strong one. i don't have a big impression. he seems more logical than ethical though.

i thought i was an IEE for years (MBTI in my 20's) absolutely convinced of it. i was influenced by cultural expectations that women should be ethical, although i would not have put it that way at the time.

self typings are important since we don't have good tests. on the other hand, it's good to take one's own self typing with a grain of salt....there might be things operating within you that push you to want to be different than you really are...and then you confuse wanting to be different with actually being different and end up with a false self typing.

speaking generally, not related to ashton here. socionics is a program of rigorous honesty. taking a look at that nasty polr and role function, those childish dual seeking and hidden agenda needs is hard. it's hard to own them when they are true....much easier to self type as another type.

anyway, when i was younger, i think i knew deep down inside i wasn't ethical. but i was raised in a family that expected Fi. so i tried and tried for years. i thought i could learn to be ethical. well, not on my own steam i couldn't. i have improved slightly being around some Fe types though.

the whole point of this theory is self knowledge...you've got to be ready to look squarely at yourself. socionics is not for the timid that's for sure.

[Tom]

SLE? Not by the very short hair of my kinny, kin, kin!

[stanprollyright]

LIE-Ni fits pretty well IMO, but you could make a convincing case for EIE. I don't see SLE at all.

[sarinana]

SLE is very likely taking in mind that Ashton types Ceasar as his identical.

[Suz]

dont have time to read thru the whole thread but i just want to say that if Ashton were to be a type different from LIE, I would pick LSE over SLE.

[glam]

ugh all this "16types vs Socionix!!1" shit and wars about who's a real Gamma and who isn't has gotten beyond old

[Gilly]

ugh all this "16types vs Socionix!!1" shit and wars about who's a real Gamma and who isn't has gotten beyond old

I know, I thought we were so past this. I find Ezra's lack of faith...disturbing.

[xerx]

ugh all this "16types vs Socionix!!1" shit and wars about who's a real Gamma and who isn't has gotten beyond old

For real. Everyone's said things they aren't proud of. Let's just leave that centuries old blood feud behind us and move on. We can all question or support Ashton's LIE typing without invoking a four year old flame war (most of whose participants don't even post here anymore) every time it's brought up.

[Azeroffs]

The way ashton interacts with others on this forum does make me want to say Ti-creative, and I actually don't see a lot of reason to think he is Te-ego. And, I'm not inclined to believe that ashton is an ethical type. Based on my limited impression, I am leaning toward SLE.

The least you guys could do if you're going to have these typing wars is give reasons for your opinions like ezra and poli. I especially liked gilly's sprinkling of meaningless assertions with no back-up thoughts or anything.