Not necessarily true.Originally Posted by CheGuevara
Do you know any examples of identical twins with different types?
V.I. would be a useless method then...
Ni-INTj --- Harmonizing Analyst ----
DCNH rox
Some mutations may occur and the environment may cause different habits but I don't think that changes the type.
We're offtopic btw...
V.I. works for me because
- I learned the basics with my base function
- I can decide if someone is likable or not with my role function
- I can compare him to people I know with my demonstrative function
- I can state the possibility of a correct typing with my creative function
Ni-INTj --- Harmonizing Analyst ---
DCNH rox
That doesn't tell me what VI aspects you are seeing. You were saying he looks like your friend. What aspects did you think were similar that are indicative of type?Some mutations may occur and the environment may cause different habits but I don't think that changes the type.
We're offtopic btw...
V.I. works for me because
- I learned the basics with my base function
- I can decide if someone is likable or not with my role function
- I can compare him to people I know with my demonstrative function
- I can state the possibility of a correct typing with my creative function
I'm getting off. I'll be back tomorrow.
That's not how my Visual Identification works. I could say the eyes are similar, che chin is similar and so on but that doesn't help much. It's rather the overall appearance...
Sergei Ganin says: "In the same way people can tell women from men by their looks, it is also possible to distinguish between the Psychological Types of people."
Or here he says: "V.I. is very intuitive method of Type identification. Imagine the equation with hundreds of variables. When everything falls into place - you just know. When something is not quite right - you just know. There is no way to explain this feeling, you have to experience it to understand."
I know that Ganin is not seen as a good Socionist on this forum
Ni-INTj --- Harmonizing Analyst ---
DCNH rox
Nobody's bashing V.I. here, but this doesn't say anything about how the types specifically distinguish themselves from any other types. All it says is that it has validity (albeit without a very convincing rhetorical scheme).
This makes no guarantees as to whether or not one's personal V.I. skills are accurate or not.
Were you to post pictures of said friend who closely resembles the man in question, then we'd probably have something to discuss.
You're learning.I know that Ganin is not seen as a good Socionist on this forum
Hey, I can rationalize an orange into an apple but that don't make it so, Joe.V.I. works for me because
- I learned the basics with my base function
- I can decide if someone is likable or not with my role function
- I can compare him to people I know with my demonstrative function
- I can state the possibility of a correct typing with my creative function
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
My first impression was Delta Fi, but I think that Delta Fi and Gamma Ni can often have a similar vibe under the right circumstances. INTps with an overwhelming Ni focus can often have the whimsical/philosophical feel of Delta Fi. I think I could be content with any of EII, IEE or ILI based on VI alone. I'm hesitant about SLI because they tend towards a stubborn or non-nonsense attitude along with either that hermit or ranger persona.
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I do! Two pairs actually. Possibly three (the last I've only worked closely with one of 'em and he seems different from his brother, comparatives maybe?).
One ESFj/ESTp pair and one ISTp/ISTj. The unknown pair is INTj/IxTj.
Besides, that wouldn't make VI useless, unless you're asserting that physical appearance is the basis for VI rather than trying to draw parallels between observable phenomenon such as behavior/mood/temperament and the cognitive processes driving them? Though perhaps you're saying that cognitive behavior arises purely from a biological basis, rather than being a more complex function of genetics, the environmental stimuli presented to any given individual, and the larger milieu that is the social dynamics of their current historical moment.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
What you said goes along with ILI, even the parts you said doesn't fit.
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