Am I an ISTJ?

[PotatoSpirit]

Hi everyone, I've taken a couple of tests and seem to be an ISTj... would you agree?

Here are some things about me: I'm very cynical, I rarely show my emotions, I'm not comfortable around many people, I'm polite, I'm usually able to go along with everybody, I usually think I'm right but easily yield when presented evidence I'm wrong, I want to be good at everything I do, I love sport (especially team sports), I'd like to understand people much better, I have some huge problems in maintaining relationships with people I don't see (like after moving to another city), I love to make fun of people and love it when they make fun of me.

What else?

[Jarno]

do you like categorizing things?
do you (at work) like people to do everything according to the manual?
are you stubborn?
are you said to be ultra responsible?
do you always do what you've promised?
are you a duty fullfiller?
do you like to finish what you started?
do you get shy in big groups of people?

[PotatoSpirit]

do you like categorizing things?

Maybe

do you (at work) like people to do everything according to the manual?

I don't work

are you stubborn?

Somewhat

are you said to be ultra responsible?

I think so

do you always do what you've promised?

Yes

are you a duty fullfiller?

Yes

do you like to finish what you started?

Don't really get a kick out of it... but yes I guess.

do you get shy in big groups of people?

Yes

Am I terminal? (c:

[ThePeddler]

Hhhmmm, you know, honestly, from the little paragraph thingy, I think you're ISTp.

I kinda didn't wanna say that because there's a chance someone will start something about the J/P switch and then BOOM -> BIG ARGUMENT -> TOPIC DEAD...

But i do think you're ISTp..From the short thingy, A focus/want was more apparent than a focus/want...

[Jarno]

Yes I would say you are an ISTJ.


ISTP's aren't ultra responsible.

[ThePeddler]

Notice how he kinda just said yes to every question asked... I would too, those questions are kinda slanted...

[Slacker]

The first post sounds almost more ISTp than ISTj to me too. It's hard to tell.

If you are completing an important but unpleasant task and you're given a method of doing it but it occurs to you that there might be an easier way, do you

a) follow the instructions because short-cuts often don't work out and you'd rather be safe than sorry

or

b) try the easier way because you don't want to waste more time on an unpleasant task than you have to


Also, if you're part of a group and someone suggests a fun ice-breaker activity to liven up the group and make sure everyone gets to know everyone, do you look forward to it, or cringe and look for an escape?

[Gilly]

I would say that LSI is a very safe bet from what's written here. I have the same problem with relationships when I move away (except the really, really strong ones), so super-ego Fi makes sense to me. Creative Se definitely works: loving the "push-pull" kind of thing with insults, very responsible, dutiful, etc. He goes along with people: Fe values with Aristocracy works here. All in all, yes, LSI definitely works.

[Gilly]

The first post sounds almost more ISTp than ISTj to me too. It's hard to tell.

If you are completing an important but unpleasant task and you're given a method of doing it but it occurs to you that there might be an easier way, do you

a) follow the instructions because short-cuts often don't work out and you'd rather be safe than sorry

or

b) try the easier way because you don't want to waste more time on an unpleasant task than you have to


Also, if you're part of a group and someone suggests a fun ice-breaker activity to liven up the group and make sure everyone gets to know everyone, do you look forward to it, or cringe and look for an escape?

That's tricky... A obviously appeals to Ti, but B could potentially appeal to Ni/Se values: "Just get it over with!" It seems to work on the surface, but I'm not sure it's the best one-shot distinguisher, especially if he's Se subtype.

[PotatoSpirit]

I remember taking a keirsey's test a few years ago and I got ISTJ there too, but I think the J/P parameter was 6 out of 10... so maybe I have something of an ISTP? You guys are good.

I'm gonna answer everything in one post:

0. If you go on holidays, are you inclined to think of what you're gonna do there in advance or are you more see when I get there?

I make some plans in advance, but I make it a point of keeping enough space free to fill on the spot.

1. Do you mind more if you're asked to give up/give something you have or something you want to do?

I'm not sure how to measure this... as long as the thing I'm asked to give away isn't necessary, I'd say I mind more to give up on something I want to do.

2. Do you group people by categories and have special respects for high-ranked people even if they're not, as an individual, liked by you?

I tend to fit people into categories but not by "rank". If someone has rank over me, I usually do tend to respect him and follow orders even if I don't like him, but if he is just generally powerful (a community leader maybe) I'm not likely to respect him more because of that... does that make sense?

3. Do you feel bad if you don't have an aim in life or something to pursue or are you ok with go with the flow?

I've always had an aim.

4. Do you try to make sure an interaction with people is with a particular emotional atmosphere, do you tend to call up people/email or whatever just to say hi, do you tend to watch the same movies/read the same books more than once or do you not really care about the emotional background in a conversation and prefer just to exchange the information, even in extreme situation act cold-bloodedly without too much emotional "fuck!!!!" at the beginning, etcetera which is opposite to the remainder of the first part?

I am no good at setting an emotional atmosphere, I never call to say hi etc...

5. Do you prefer to make decisions and move on or prefer to ponder and making decisions and moving on is not something very like you?

I'm good at deciding and moving on.

EDITED: 6. Is it like you to not know the names of people/care about it even if you start socialise with that person/people more and more, do you tend to laugh no matter what the situation just because you found something funny, do you like to be in a group that is always very emotional and laughing or do you prefer the groups where mild and subdued emotions and relationships is worth more?

I often don't know people's names but I care about it, I very much laugh no matter what the situation, and I'm not sure about the group... I think I like both depending on what we are doing: if just hanging out then emotional, if working the other one.

7. Do you multi-task a lot and find it easy? Do you use words like start, end and result a lot?

I think yes on all three.

If you want, answer any of them to any extent you want. I also don't guarntee that your answers will be very useful for me in making Reinin analysis and that I will do it on all your answers. Other people might get cracking at it also, though, whether through Reinin dichotomies or other way.

Hey they better be useful and used :-P no thanks anyways, I'm really enjoying this forum!

If you are completing an important but unpleasant task and you're given a method of doing it but it occurs to you that there might be an easier way, do you
a) follow the instructions because short-cuts often don't work out and you'd rather be safe than sorry
or
b) try the easier way because you don't want to waste more time on an unpleasant task than you have to

If I'm ordered to use the method I'll use it, if I'm just given the method as a suggestion, or if it is just the standard then I'll go for the shortcut, or at least explore it's potentials.

Also, if you're part of a group and someone suggests a fun ice-breaker activity to liven up the group and make sure everyone gets to know everyone, do you look forward to it, or cringe and look for an escape?

I look for an escape. I'll make a conscious effort not to, but I'll look (c:

[Gilly]

Christ, who wouldn't want to avoid icebreakers?

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm undermining your questions Nicky, but I can't help but have reactions to them for some reason >_<

[Slacker]

Christ, who wouldn't want to avoid icebreakers?

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm undermining your questions Nicky, but I can't help but have reactions to them for some reason >_<

LOL well I do know people who like them. I sometimes like them, actually.

Still, he used the specific phrase "explore potentials". Not 100% sure but it points away from Ne PoLR anyway.

[Slacker]

Typing by dichotomies is tricky. He'd be better off IMO typing off which functions he prefers and doesn't prefer.

[Slacker]

Honestly, I'm not convinced you understand the dichotomies well enough to establish a test based on them. That's #1. Secondly, people who are merry are sometimes serious, etc.

Anyway, please read this

[Gilly]

Yeah, but some of them are incredibly vague and easy to just plain old mess up if you haven't taken the time to really understand them.

My sentiments exactly, Nicky.

[ThePeddler]

...
Choose.. And don't just answer. It means more if you elaborate...

What is the point of most you do?

Is it closer to seeking out your own place to relax, and enjoy yourself and your environment, simultaneously making sure both are in tune, working efficiently according to you?

Is it To create rules and procedures according to your logic that you want your environment to submit to?

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Would you rather...
other people create an environment that is all about Theatrical and easily expressed Emotions?

other people show you surprising new things and interesting insights into situations?

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Which do you relate more to?

- Balanced, harmonious living and temperance.
- Establishing and overseeing correct structures and systems.

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Do you try(and worry) more to show...

That you are a caring indivdual?
that you consider the past and future important?

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Are you more...
calm, balanced, and inert?
Relaxed, go-with-the-flow?

[Gilly]

I'm sorry, but those are not exactly good questions. Better to make a battery of examples for each, rather than just presenting abstract single-question tests. Much more reliable results.


...Especially since he might be LSI :wink:

[PotatoSpirit]

Aren't the descriptions on this forum good, from the "index" topic?

Are those percentages the chances of me being one of those types, or how much of every type is in me?
I'm not used to this, but is 17% high? They look kind of uncertain to me (c:

Anyways, I've read the ESTp, it might be me... would it be possible for the Ti to be my main function?

ENFj sounds nothing like me, ISTp has something right.

I don't think I'm very good at understanding myself...

[implied]

whoa @ the dee posting extravaganza.

[ThePeddler]

I know those were poor questions...But stilll...well, nothing...

I think he's ISTp.. I really really do

He has more an impression of someone relaxed, not mobilized... And his style is more about Enjoyment than challenges..

..ok

[Gilly]

whoa @ the dee posting extravaganza.

Oooo, nice Ni, implied

[PotatoSpirit]

What is the point of most you do?

Is it closer to seeking out your own place to relax, and enjoy yourself and your environment, simultaneously making sure both are in tune, working efficiently according to you?

Is it To create rules and procedures according to your logic that you want your environment to submit to?

After some time thinking about it my answer is: I don't know.
Things around me have to follow my logic, but by making them follow my logic I'm in tune with them, and they work efficiently.

Would you rather...
other people create an environment that is all about Theatrical and easily expressed Emotions?

other people show you surprising new things and interesting insights into situations?

The second, theatrical almost feels like fake, and easily expressed emotions might make me feel uncomfortable.
On the other hand, new things and interesting insights both seem very positive things.
I realize I just answered differently to a similar question by dee... sorry ahahaha.

Which do you relate more to?

- Balanced, harmonious living and temperance.
- Establishing and overseeing correct structures and systems.

The second, because temperance seem useless, while balance and harmony seem nice but not like me.
I like structures and systems, and what's the point if they are not correct?

Do you try(and worry) more to show...

That you are a caring indivdual?
that you consider the past and future important?

The first. I don't remember ever trying to show that I care about the past or future, and I really don't understand why someone would worry about showing that.

Are you more...
calm, balanced, and inert?
Relaxed, go-with-the-flow?

The first, except for the balanced, which I'm not sure I am. Calm and inert fit me I think.
I'm rarely relaxed, and I don't know about the flow.

[ThePeddler]

....I guess you're ISTj, then...

[Gilly]

I realize I just answered differently to a similar question by dee... sorry ahahaha.

np besides i don't think they are even similar. perhaps not the nature of things aside from my interpretation of them at least as related to the dichotomy i was trying to see in you.

LSI it is!

[Slacker]

Yeah he sounds more ISTj than ISTp at this point anyway.

[PotatoSpirit]

I was looking at quadras, clubs and romance styles, and I think I'm either beta or gamma, probably a pragmatist (but not much to decide on there), aggressor or caregiver, IP or IJ.

So either ISTj or ISTp.

I'm not sure how you guys agreed I'm ISTj (I'll look at those questions better to understand the logic), how do I know if I'm j or p?

Anyways thanks a lot for the answers, and for the link to wikisocion (c:


EDIT: for the picture, the avatar is me, for a recent one pm me your email

[FDG]

Hi everyone, I've taken a couple of tests and seem to be an ISTj... would you agree?

Here are some things about me: I'm very cynical, I rarely show my emotions, I'm not comfortable around many people, I'm polite, I'm usually able to go along with everybody, I usually think I'm right but easily yield when presented evidence I'm wrong, I want to be good at everything I do, I love sport (especially team sports), I'd like to understand people much better, I have some huge problems in maintaining relationships with people I don't see (like after moving to another city), I love to make fun of people and love it when they make fun of me.

What else?

ma vaccagare va

vabbè cmq sei ISTj secondo me

[PotatoSpirit]

ma vaccagare va

vabbè cmq sei ISTj secondo me

Ahahaha ciao FDG.

Ci vado e torno subito, so la strada a memoria ormai (c:

[Kristiina]

Hello my dual. Nice to have you in the forum.

I have a question for you - are you the kind of strict and assertive ISTj who is quiet a lot or are you more like the stereotypical strict wide-shouldered cop who kicks in the door, lists the laws that the people have broken and then kicks some criminal ass? I'm not even sure if the second kind exists, but I think it would be helluva cool, so I think some ISTj could be kinda like that.

[PotatoSpirit]

Oh you are so cute Kris.

The only door I've ever kicked open is my own, when the lock was broken and I didn't feel like calling someone...

I am both assertive and quiet, and I feel very good in the cop role, but I also don't want to push people around, so I usually just state that I disapprove of that behavior and let them go on. Unless it's very wrong.

[Sorc]

hello dual bro,
\o/