Statement about Fi, Te

[tcaudilllg]

I a lot of people consider Fi to be about perceiving bonds between others, but Te is the art of the deal, and recognizing where deals can be made. A deal is a bond; therefore, it must be Te that recognizes the opportunity for bonding and not Fi. However, certainly Fi is the substance of a bond because it determines how much integrity the bond has; because if you disike or distrust someone, your deal with them may not last.

Or would you say that bonds always exist, and deals just formalize them?

[aestrivex]

Te is the art of the deal, and recognizing where deals can be made.

no. now go away.

[Smilingeyes]

A simplified answer: Ni is what helps one see the opportunity for growth, profit, making of deals. It is what lets us perceive synergy. Te is what gives the ability to structurize the deal, to make and uphold the contract. Si is what lends us the skills to fulfill the contract. Fi looks for the integrity shown by Te, not the shrewdness of economic opportunism (Ni) nor the profitable skills (Si).

[Joy]

Te is the art of the deal, and recognizing where deals can be made.

I've not heard of this before.

[tcaudilllg]

I think your problem, Joy, is mistaking your penchant for selling houses for something other than .

A simplified answer: Ni is what helps one see the opportunity for growth, profit, making of deals. It is what lets us perceive synergy. Te is what gives the ability to structurize the deal, to make and uphold the contract. Si is what lends us the skills to fulfill the contract. Fi looks for the integrity shown by Te, not the shrewdness of economic opportunism (Ni) nor the profitable skills (Si).

Ni has nothing to do with seeing opportunity, although perhaps it can take advantage of an opportunity that has been previously been perceived via Te by formalizing a contract for its exploitation. However, Ni just sees the road ahead by remembering past deals. Comparison of past deals to present conditions can be indicative of a new opportunity for solid agreement and dealmaking.

[tcaudilllg]

Some months ago, labcoat made an important point to me. I had told him that Ne was imagery, and he protested that Si was imagery which was utilized by Ne to create imagination. He was right, of course: I was so adept with +Ne and comfortable appling whatever +Si image I became aware of to it that I could not deduce the relationship between these two very distinct elements. I think Gammas here are having the same problem: they are so used to using Te to bond on basis of Fi, and Fi to judge on basis of Te, doing either so casually and naturally, that they fail to distinguish between the two and thus are losing the opportunity to learn more about them.

[Joy]

I think your problem, Joy, is mistaking your penchant for selling houses for something other than .

I could never be a real estate agent. Way too stressful.

[liveandletlive]

A simplified answer: Ni is what helps one see the opportunity for growth, profit, making of deals. It is what lets us perceive synergy. Te is what gives the ability to structurize the deal, to make and uphold the contract. Si is what lends us the skills to fulfill the contract. Fi looks for the integrity shown by Te, not the shrewdness of economic opportunism (Ni) nor the profitable skills (Si).

can you explain how Si lets you fulfill the contract? this seems as if it's too general and could apply to a couple of other elements.