Meeting my LSI-Se friend

[JuJu]

Yesterday I reunited with the Se-LSI I consider the closest friend/love of my life so far. (We hadn't seen each other in years.)

Even though our relationship ended badly two years ago, with recriminations and yelling, when we saw each other again, we couldn't stop smiling, laughing, and talking.

When we first saw each other, we both looked at each other and said, at the same time, "Wow."

Immediately, it was as though the past--the bad in it, anyway--meant nothing. Our conversation was extremely easy and interesting.


I'm increasingly shocked and amazed at how accurate Model A Socionics is... It's really amazing... This theory could change the entire world... Thank God for my dual.

[ArchonAlarion]

JuJu supposedly you have me on ignore, but are you just trying out some propaganda technique for your journalism class or something?

Seriously its textbook dude. wtf is your deal?

[JuJu]

Huh..?

I write a thread about reuniting with my dual and that is your response..? Something about propaganda..? (What's propaganda about reuniting with my dual?)

I know you are young--but I know you're not a re re...

I don't even know where you're at with this stuff you're writing to me... It seems crazy

[JuJu]

I think I might get the idea behind your post...


I report something positive about duality in Socionics--my personal experience no less--and you think it's propaganda for model A... (Wow!)

Ever think I might just be posting about my experience..?


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You jump to some insane conclusions, Archon Alarion... E.g. I saw that post you wrote about how you believe Niffweed--in posts and videos--distorts his whole personality so as to appear INTp to ppl online, when in fact he's (according to you) INTj... (That's totally fuckin nuts dude..!) This post of yours in this thread is almost equally crazy.

I made this post bc I reunited with my dual and it was great... I can't believe how well Socionics describes the feelings that go with this phenomenon... That's what I truly believe, and that's basically what I wrote.

What's propaganda about that? (Answer: nothing.) To reiterate: it's crazy that you even jumped to that conclusion.


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Let's move on...

[Creepy-male]

Or, propaganda that you're an EIE. Which Jake doesn't believe, probably.

But agreed, Merry J duality is delicious.

[ArchonAlarion]

I think I might get the idea behind your post...


I report something positive about duality in Socionics--my personal experience no less--and you think it's propaganda for model A... (Wow!)

Ever think I might just be posting about my experience..?

Dude ya bolded your support and exaltation of model A. Its like the entire thing was just an excuse to push model a lol.

and btw I hope you have many happy and exciting duality experiences, I have no inclination to dampen your anecdotes. I do not however feel you are being open about your motivations in making this thread however.

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You jump to some insane conclusions, Archon Alarion... E.g. I saw that post you wrote about how you believe Niffweed--in posts and videos--distorts his whole personality so as to appear INTp to ppl online, when in fact he's (according to you) INTj... (That's totally fuckin nuts dude..!) This post of yours in this thread is almost equally crazy.

I actually never said this, I think it would be impossible to appear as another type especially one outside your quadra, AND I even made a post (in the Niffweed is LII thread) to explicitly clarify what I meant and that I did not in fact believe what you say I did.

I made this post bc I reunited with my dual and it was great... I can't believe how well Socionics describes the feelings that go with this phenomenon... That's what I truly believe, and that's basically what I wrote.

Thats great man good for you!

However, its obvious you are using it as an excuse to push "model A" not just socionics in general. I am connecting your past actions on this forum to your current ones and seeing a pattern of strangely robotic sounding rhetoric and the ineivitable pushing of model a.

What's propaganda about that? (Answer: nothing.) To reiterate: it's crazy that you even jumped to that conclusion.

No its really not.

[strrrng]

I'm increasingly shocked and amazed at how accurate Model A Socionics is... It's really amazing... This theory could change the entire world... Thank God for my dual.

It's just the reality of functions, types, etc., not "Model A."

[JuJu]

However, its obvious you are using it as an excuse to push "model A" not just socionics in general. I am connecting your past actions on this forum to your current ones and seeing a pattern of strangely robotic sounding rhetoric and the ineivitable pushing of model a.

wow, lol... you're nutty, Jake... This stuff never even crossed my mind while posting... (In other words, you're not good at reading my motivations... But you're creative speculating about them...)

I know that you don't believe in Model A, J... That's fine w/ me... Believe in whatever bullshit you want... In ghost hookers made of cotton candy for all I care.

Just know this is a forum for Model A Socionics... Know that you are calling me out for using the word "Model A..." Know that you are bothering me, and have been for months.

It's just tiresome, dealing with you dude... There's never anything constructive... It's either one-liners with nothing behind them, or criticism of something you don't understand.

BTW, I am an alien... I have seven balls... I founded a ****** Youth here in Hamden. Talk soon (I'm sure--although I'm hoping we don't... Unless it's constructive... It hasn't been yet... And I'm doubting it will be.)

[ArchonAlarion]

See, what you're doing now is the next step in the propagandistic tactic. You are turning around what I say, making me out to be some sort of fringe radical. The inclusion of the personal information in the OP will help you secure this development as it may be misconstrued that i am in fact disbelieving/jealous/destructive/extremist towards your person.

You continuously invoke model a "this is a model A forum" etc.

Yes it is a so called "model A" forum.

This point actually works in my favor and is one of the reasons I'm calling you out on this: If its well known that this is a model A forum, its very silly to explicitly (bolded also) state support for model A as if you are a soldier in some war. A natural post would have just been your anecdote and happiness about socionics. Instead the whole thing is a justification of your army (model A) via anecdotal evidence.

Remember that this incident is not isolated and is instead part of an ongoing pattern of your strange and borderline hysterical behavior.

[JuJu]

Remember that this incident is not isolated and is instead part of an ongoing pattern of your strange and borderline hysterical behavior.

Right... Moving on...

[strrrng]

I wish I had a cat like that.

[JuJu]

LOL!!!!

yea, the cat's badass... i'm gonna name it... i was thinkin "Paranoid" or "Lulzington.." Any ideas?

[strrrng]

LOL!!!!

yea, the cat's badass... i'm gonna name it... i was thinkin "Paranoid" or "Lulzington.." Any ideas?

first name that came to mind was jesus (like the mexicans pronounce it -- hay-zoose)

[JuJu]

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Wow... Nick I laughed so fuckin hard at that!!! fuck...


Jesus (Hay-Seuss) is perfect... (I think he's SLE.)

[strrrng]

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Wow... Nick I laughed so fuckin hard at that!!! fuck...


Jesus (Hay-Seuss) is perfect... (I think he's SLE.)

my dual

[Steve]

Yesterday I reunited with the Se-LSI I consider the closest friend/love of my life so far. (We hadn't seen each other in years.)

Even though our relationship ended badly two years ago, with recriminations and yelling, when we saw each other again, we couldn't stop smiling, laughing, and talking.

When we first saw each other, we both looked at each other and said, at the same time, "Wow."

Immediately, it was as though the past--the bad in it, anyway--meant nothing. Our conversation was extremely easy and interesting.


I'm increasingly shocked and amazed at how accurate Model A Socionics is... It's really amazing... This theory could change the entire world... Thank God for my dual.

Glad you had such an enjoyable experience.

And its connection to Model A socionics is?

[JuJu]

Steve: this forum's about Model A Socionics. That's the connection.

Do we need to go through this crap every time I make a post..? Why are you still bothering me, wasting my time?

You and Archon are acting like leeches... Whenever I post you attach yourself to it, and start sucking.

Please leave me alone.

[Steve]

Steve: this forum's about Model A Socionics. That's the connection.

Do we need to go through this crap every time I make a post..? Why are you still bothering me, wasting my time?

You and Archon are acting like leeches... Whenever I post you attach yourself to it, and start sucking.

Please leave me alone.

Fine whatever. I'm just not sure why you made this post.

This is how the post read: "Me and someone who I've typed as my dual got along great today, therefore this is evidence that Model A socionics (coming from you is a translation for "my understanding of Model A socionics") works".

If you had a different intention feel free to correct me. I'm not sure what kind of response you were expecting, as there is no way to debate or validate your labeling of your experience. What kind of response did you hope people would write? Things like "That's great JuJu! Model A is great! You were right all along! Just from this example it proves you know your stuff!" ?

But you're right, I guess it's not worth getting into this again.

[JuJu]

This post is called EIE-LSI duality bc I was hoping to hear from other EIEs or LSIs about their experiences with duality...

You two (Steve and Archon) are getting strange with your unsolicited comments/inferences as to my motives.

I've asked you both numerous times to stop responding to my posts, as nothing good ever comes from them--we go through this same back-and-forth cycle again and again... The Juju-Steve/Archon Alarion posting pattern is:

1) Juju says something
2) Steve/Archon Alarion reacts in a touchy way
3) Juju says something along the lines of "wtf is your problem? leave me alone."
4) not heeding "leave me alone," Steve/Archon Alarion explains the 'problem' at length, usually text block-by-block
5) JuJu says something along the lines of "you're wasting my time. stop."
6) Steve/Archon Alarion either stops or doesn't stop... (sometimes there are more steps.)

I don't understand why you two persist... I have nothing more to say to you... I do not care about either of your views on Socionics unless they've changed dramatically recently...

You know what? I'll start hearing both of you out again as soon as you type either me and Dane Cook beta NF... You don't even need to get the type exactly right--just beta NF will be good enough... Then I'll assume you'll have pulled your heads out of the sand... Until then, don't waste my time/energy, posting after me and prompting me to write this same crap over and over again... All to no effect on you.

[Steve]

We're the ones who don't stop?

For a good month straight, almost any thread where I offered my opinion, you would follow up with defamatory ad hominem responses, and I had asked you repeatedly to stop. I had addressed you in multiple posts, pointing out your hypocrisy, hoping it would end there.

Then a day or so later, you post utter garbage on my wikisocion page trying to start something over there. You're 100% transparent, and a major hypocrite.

I'll admit to taking the bait this time around, but you sir are in no position to preach to anyone about unsolicited comments.

[strrrng]

This post is called EIE-LSI duality bc I was hoping to hear from other EIEs or LSIs about their experiences with duality...

Thing is, that would be cool if you didn't end your post with the ®Model A Socionics comment, because that just made it look like you were creating some ad hoc hypothesis based on one experience to further promote model A.

And this isn't the first time I've seen you do this. In a few other threads, you would post some similar personal experience, correlate it back to the greatness of model A, but downplay it as simply "sharing my experience to see if others' was the same" if accused of being promotional. So, while your intentions here (or anywhere else) may not have been solely propagandistic, your words usually end up conveying things in that manner.

[idolatrie]

I find EIE-LSI duality gets shit done. We're remarkably efficient at working through concepts together and you know, being effective.

I particularly love how EIEs can make me feel better (ESEs too, but in a different, more sentimental way). Sometimes it feels like there is no way out of my emotional milieu, but then they come along and push away the cobwebs, let some light in past the layers of dust. Sometimes I get so caught up in my own thinking processes, and they will throw some suggestion in, some new option, and it is like, yes, that was the piece I was missing, or that's a really exciting development, and everything becomes interesting again.

[Creepy-male]

I particularly love how EIEs can make me feel better (ESEs too, but in a different, more sentimental way). Sometimes it feels like there is no way out of my emotional milieu, but then they come along and push away the cobwebs, let some light in past the layers of dust. Sometimes I get so caught up in my own thinking processes, and they will throw some suggestion in, some new option, and it is like, yes, that was the piece I was missing, or that's a really exciting development, and everything becomes interesting again.

Funny... I feel the same way about LIIs

I wonder if EIEs feel the same way about LSIs then? It seems there might be a lot more mutuality in the dyads than just complementarity.

I find EIE-LSI duality gets shit done. We're remarkably efficient at working through concepts together and you know, being effective.

And this too. Most of everything I understand about socionics/believe enough to talk about on here (and not my rambling wiki page) has been stuff I've sorted through with Brilliand when I can't fall back on delicious concrete personal experience.

Umm and sorry if I'm mauling your PoLR to death here.

[idolatrie]

Funny... I feel the same way about LIIs

I wonder if EIEs feel the same way about LSIs then? It seems there might be a lot more mutuality in the dyads than just complementarity.

Well, I think I was pretty much writing about Fe-DS there, so lol, I'd hope that it would be familiar enough to ESE-LII experiences. The people I go to for emotional support are all EIEs, IEIs or ESEs. I've had some pretty major, formative relationships with ESEs, so that is no doubt colouring it too.

[pluie]

Right... Moving on...

lmfao.
i love it.

[Expat]

I think these two are a very likely example of this duality -- Cristina and Nestor Kirchner, the current and the former presidents of Argentina.

Her type is far more obvious to me than his, individually.

For the record, I have no time for them politically; but their obvious bond (personal as well as political) is remarkable.

[redbaron]

when I first glanced at that picture, I thought it was Donald Trump. lol

@ JuJu, very cool about your reconnection with your dual. I find it all pretty amazing also.

[JuJu]

I think these two are a very likely example of this duality -- Cristina and Nestor Kirchner, the current and the former presidents of Argentina.

Very good call!! Ti-LSI and Fe-EIE

[231000139298142655]

Being LSI, I met an EIE a little over a month ago and we both seemed to feel passionately about the other, but now we barely talk and now it seems like hes seen an ex who is also LSI. I met my dual, but I believe I screwed it up somehow.

[Tom]

OMG NUMBERS! A GIRL, ISTj NUMBERS! (or at least one who likes men; please don't take offense lol)

[07490]

OMG NUMBERS! A GIRL, ISTj NUMBERS! (or at least one who likes men; please don't take offense lol)

No offense taken, but I find it odd how we are going to call her name now, she is numbers, LSI, my dual and most importantly, a girl...

[231000139298142655]

...wait, what? me?

[07490]

...wait, what? me?

What are the chances that we are numbers in our usernames, we are Beta, duality, yin and yang, a male and female, I live in NY and you live in connecticut...

[231000139298142655]

what are you getting at? O.o

[07490]

what are you getting at? O.o

Why did you make your screen name 231000139298142655? was it coincidence? was it your credit card number?

[231000139298142655]

no, its a scrambled serial number and my birthday mixed together... somewhat coincidental

[07490]

I'm taking a deep breath while this is happening, its almost too surreal how this is happening.

[231000139298142655]

Please explain, what exactly is happening?

[07490]

Is Pepsi better than Coke?

[231000139298142655]

indifferent.