Ni = magical imaginary possibilities
Si = real stuff that is awesome
Ni = time and clocks
Si = feeling good and chilling out
Ni = prophecy
Si = F U I'm a dwagon
Ni = magical imaginary possibilities
Si = real stuff that is awesome
Ni = time and clocks
Si = feeling good and chilling out
Ni = prophecy
Si = F U I'm a dwagon
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
ya totally
100% agree.
"Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."
- Voltaire
Ni: thinking about what's going to happen in the future
Si: paying attention to what's going on right now
(Not perfect, but eh.)
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I pity your souls
right.Originally Posted by Joy
Any type can be aware of time. Why people try to make this quality inherent to Ni, I don't know.Originally Posted by Starfall
The reason people attribute time to Ni is because of the way in which Ni manifests itself. Ni deals with underlying processes. Take Ne and turn it in on itself and you begin to understand how it works and why Ni types are more focused than Ne types.
The Ni type can see what would lead to fruition of a possibility but that means an event or series of events would have to occur. Events exist through time. I like to think of Ni like a chain.
Ok, munenori take no offense because I don't dislike you, but your descriptions are total bullshit. For starters, if Ni is the intuition of possibilities than what is Ne?
Ni is the potential energy component of the human psyche. It pretty much defines the human expression. In essence, it is the person liberal(which can be quite conservative) core. It is what makes up the person's interior motives and ideologies. Whether a person wants to expand their minds or if the person wants to settle into stability, Ni is the function that determines this. Ni is how we approach the world, in ideology context(as opposed to action context, which would be Se). As I have said before, everyone has to value the Ni function, because everyone has potential ideologies or goals.
+Ni- Evolution, normalcy, stability, confidence(because of stability).
-Ni- Revolution, eccentricity, originality, anti-stability, fear.
Now if you are a Delta, +Ni should be the function you use. You should usually try to fit in with societies expectations.
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Yeah, this thread has made me laugh because it seems rather apparent given the "Si = F U I'm a dwagon" that Mune here was not trying to be serious. It is rather entertaining that everyone took off running to make this into a serious discussion.
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Not really to the point; this is why I made such a big deal of metasocionics, because our understanding of various aspects of reality can change over time. However, Ni still *is* about how things develop over time.
Actually this has a lot to do with time, the steps in a proof - though it's more Ne than Ni, because there is a clearly defined origin and conclusion. This concept is related to some other ideas I have about how to define the elements more rigorously, as they apply to formal languages.
This is a hopeless debate, you can't define Ni in the way that you'll are doing it. Its not possible.
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Why don't you give us a definition?Originally Posted by hitta
I'm not saying that Ni isn't about the dynamics of fields. I'm saying that Si is as well.
Last edited by Joy; 06-08-2008 at 04:52 AM.
Connections between events, connections through time, cause and effect relationships. Take your pick.
This sounds right.Originally Posted by Joy
Ni is Xanax.
So, you're a result type!proofs are sequential. an implication statement alone can be read as a time series "if..then". but unless we're publishing the proof or computerizing it (and thus are worried about runtime constraints and parsimony) do i necessarily care about the particular sequence used, as long as the chain (to use Tov's analogy) is logical and gets from A to B? strong Ne can come up with reasonable guesses for each step and Ti can check if each step is reasonable. if we're only checking a proof (grading an exam, etc.) or regurgitating a construction verbatim, then even Ne isn't needed. the more complicated the proof, the more difficult it is to approach either way, but the point is there are at least some cases where one can Ti without Ni-ing.
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For my opinion on Ni, see my comment in the Si vs. Ni thread.
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