Well, at least I think UDP is ESTj. Are there any others? It's a shame, since I do enjoy discussions done by ESTjs in real life. They really get into what they are talking about.
Well, at least I think UDP is ESTj. Are there any others? It's a shame, since I do enjoy discussions done by ESTjs in real life. They really get into what they are talking about.
smilex is the only Te-ESTj. Too bad there isn't any Si-ESTj.
I think UDP is ESTj.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Eunice thinks I am INTj, mostly because of what the Socoionix crowd/Ashton says.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
i still don't see UDP as ESTj. however, there is username aut0 who is a self-typed ESTj.
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model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Isn't that what you said - you cited Ashton and socionix. You also thought you I was Ti dominant as well, yes, you have said that for some time. But I did not 'assume' the bit about socionix- you said it outrightly.
FWIW, I don't really care to talk of my type anymore.
If you think I value certain functions, that's great.
If you want to know why I think I am LSE, just ask me.
But just to humor niffweed, do you really think Kristiina and I are duals?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Many believe he is an LSI-Ti.
I think there are a variety of other factors involved. Firstly, there is your seeming attraction to Fe, which people often reference. Secondly, many people on the forum observe little to no Se in you. Thirdly, there are your constant references to times you've spent with members of other quadras, particularly Beta quadra, and these people apparently haven't been repellent to you, even though they value the complete opposite of what you do (in terms of functions). Fourthly, people are sceptical of the way you will continually reference sources concerning the LSE, in order to justify your self-typing, instead of contributing your own opinion, and then refusing to discuss your type, as though it doesn't interest you in the slightest; as though you'd rather be doing something more worthwile; more beneficial; more efficient with your time. The truth is, you can't cover up the facts of personality. Your focus on Te seems thoroughly forced when it comes to discussing your activities off the internet. You don't play games because "you have better things to be doing with your time". And then there's that quote that ScarlettLux has in her signature. You don't like social interraction? Come on. Is that because LSEs don't like Fe, and thus anything related to being friends with people and enjoying oneself extensively? As a side point, as you know, ScarlettLux is currently considering SEE. If others can see it, it could be true, and considering your relationship with her (online or offline; it makes no difference), LII would not seem out of place.
And to clear it up, most people on this forum believe the Socionix crowd formulated and currently discuss a skewered version of socionics. I'd like to know Eunice's opinion on the matter, actually.
I've spoken to aut0 a few times, and I could see LSE. It's a shame he doesn't post here anymore; he was a nice guy.
I know you weren't asking me, but I think ethical or logical types can be demanding, insensitive and cutting. They simply have different reasons for being these things.
Did he?
I second that.the result is that there are no LSEs on this forum[...]
Are you insane?
Are you retarded Ezra? Whaaaa?
This, folks, is why I had gotten so pissed off at the forum for a while.
My god that's so funny
haaaaahaaa you - you actually think your big post there is real, don't you. You think all of that is true, right? You believe what you said?
hooolllyyy shit man
PS: I'll "respond" to this after I get back from my ride to uni. You so made my day, thank you Ezra.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
... ...
Okay, I wasn't expecting the thread to turn out this way, it was just a simple question!... Anyway, it's still a shame there isn't more ESTj input, I might be more involved here if there was.
Yeah i think the ENFp's on the forum are lucky because we have heaps of our duals on here! Very cool. My ESTj friend doesn't believe in socionics. In fact he has bagged me behind my back to my ENTj friend about it. My ENTj friend does believe it though so he sticks up for me.
Its just the way of the ESTj though. Hes too busy working 13 hour shifts at the hospital to think about anything else
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
I still don't see how others can be swayed from their type based on what others say.
Edit: Meatburger, I think duals here should interact more often. Maybe duals would get along better out there in that scary real world?
"Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."
- Voltaire
ESTJ's don't exist in the online world.
By all accounts ISTp's, ESFps and ESTp's shouldn't either, but, here they are.
"Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."
- Voltaire
Maybe because he's almost always online interacting with Se-POLR EII's?
Again, maybe this is a characteristic of LSE's?Fourthly, people are sceptical of the way you will continually reference sources concerning the LSE, in order to justify your self-typing, instead of contributing your own opinion,
If he were LII wouldn't he have loads of NeTi to write his own self-analysis description?
Whoa. Contradiction? Sounds like you're making a case for Te in the first comment.and then refusing to discuss your type, as though it doesn't interest you in the slightest; as though you'd rather be doing something more worthwile; more beneficial; more efficient with your time. The truth is, you can't cover up the facts of personality. Your focus on Te seems thoroughly forced when it comes to discussing your activities off the internet. You don't play games because "you have better things to be doing with your time".
So apparently you have observed Te in the forum, but are making a case against its existence from an un-observable description of its manifestations?
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EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
@ Ritella: "Many believe he is an LSI-Ti." - that comment was about smilex. Not me.
So combining that quote with the big about Se polr is not really applicable.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Yeah they are pretty busy all the time... But I do think that there have to be some out there that would post in a forum like this. If there were, I might also reconsider how I'm not that attracted to them, because I might not be understanding the things that go on in their heads, etc, I guess. I would definitely want to know more, and not those types of vague descriptions that don't make any sense to me. Of course, I do realize that everybody is different, even if they do share a type.
Yeah, the guy who introduced me to all this was an ESTj boss, who started telling me about MBTT outside of work and typed me.
At a later date I tried telling him about socionics and he wasn't interested. The way he saw it was that MBTT told him what people would be good at in their jobs and gave him a little insight on how people think. In regards to socionics, well I don't really think he cared if people in the workplace got on ie intertype, because in a work environment it's never gonna run smoothly so he saw no practical use for it.
Funnily enough I agreed with him, but I still kept an interest going, sort of as a hobby, and well, here I am