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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    ESI-Se in my experience are very openly defensive when it comes to their family, even when the child is quite grown-up. It doesn't matter very much that they might put the offspring in a strange position while threatening others because they're not treating it as they should. Probably a SLE would push the child to find their own means when dealing with others. I find Beta STs more inclined to use pressure spontaneously and explicitly mostly when someone stands in their way or interferes with their plans. From what I've noticed Te people are usually passive-aggressive when it comes to relationships only ("the silent treatment" is supposed to make you understand something has not passed by them smoothly). However it's something that fades away quickly, they don't hold grudges. In other kind of situations they can go bulldozing fairly well.

    I was also wondering if someone may perceive their Conflictors/Super-egos as aggressive, but that would be a bit weird when the polr is Fi or Ni.
    Interesting timing for this topic because I am BOILING MAD! I am consumed with WRATH. I feel VICTIMIZED by years of NEGLECT. Aaaaaaagh!

    The outward manifestations of this RAGE are brief sentences spoken completely devoid of emotion. Nothing is being thrown, no cursing is taking place internally or externally. Yet I am radiating an electric current of anger that is not going unnoticed. If that tantrum guy from that other thread were in the room with me he would be stricken into silence by my what is coming out of my eyes. I am being careful not to allow my gaze to fall on any living creature because they would be vaporized by it. I am fairly sure that I am taking years off my life by allowing my emotion to fuel this fire in me. But I don't CARE!!!!! I feel confident that I will maintain this silent rage for the rest of the night and into the morning and then I am going to get the revenge that I know will change my life forever.

    My next post will be entitled "Iris Loses It."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    Interesting timing for this topic because I am BOILING MAD! I am consumed with WRATH. I feel VICTIMIZED by years of NEGLECT. Aaaaaaagh!
    How cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    How cute.
    As my activity partner, I request that you be sympathetic and not laugh at me. However, I know that you will anyway. And I'm ok with that.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    As my activity partner, I request that you be sympathetic and not laugh at me. However, I know that you will anyway. And I'm ok with that.
    You talk a lot for someone who is angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    You talk a lot for someone who is angry.
    Ha! Commence silent treatment.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    Interesting timing for this topic because I am BOILING MAD! I am consumed with WRATH. I feel VICTIMIZED by years of NEGLECT. Aaaaaaagh!

    The outward manifestations of this RAGE are brief sentences spoken completely devoid of emotion. Nothing is being thrown, no cursing is taking place internally or externally. Yet I am radiating an electric current of anger that is not going unnoticed. If that tantrum guy from that other thread were in the room with me he would be stricken into silence by my what is coming out of my eyes. I am being careful not to allow my gaze to fall on any living creature because they would be vaporized by it. I am fairly sure that I am taking years off my life by allowing my emotion to fuel this fire in me. But I don't CARE!!!!! I feel confident that I will maintain this silent rage for the rest of the night and into the morning and then I am going to get the revenge that I know will change my life forever.

    My next post will be entitled "Iris Loses It."
    This is a bit strange, because so far you've always been super-calm, serious, and controlled and it's hard to have you switch to the "DRAMA" stereotype of EIE. I'm not saying "CHILL", it's better for you to live your anger no matter what. JUST DO IT.
    I like Klaus Kinski, but he behaves like an Enneagram 8 Sexual and is in proud possession of a personality disorder. I think holding him as your EIE standard could be a bit dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    This is a bit strange, because so far you've always been super-calm, serious, and controlled and it's hard to have you switch to the "DRAMA" stereotype of EIE. I'm not saying "CHILL", it's better for you to live your anger no matter what. JUST DO IT.
    I like Klaus Kinski, but he behaves like an Enneagram 8 Sexual and is in proud possession of a personality disorder. I think holding him as your EIE standard could be a bit dangerous.
    From another thread: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...70#post1028370

    I have learned a lot about myself since that 2-year old typing thread. There is no question that I am a Beta. If there is any indecision it would be between IEI and EIE. I feel fairly confident at this point that I am not IEI.

    I am very controlled because I was beaten with a belt as a child and teenager if I ever raised my voice or disagreed with my father.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    This is a bit strange, because so far you've always been super-calm, serious, and controlled and it's hard to have you switch to the "DRAMA" stereotype of EIE. I'm not saying "CHILL", it's better for you to live your anger no matter what. JUST DO IT.
    I like Klaus Kinski, but he behaves like an Enneagram 8 Sexual and is in proud possession of a personality disorder. I think holding him as your EIE standard could be a bit dangerous.
    Shit, I don't even like you. And yet I agree with what you say: It's better to live your anger.

    That doesn't mean misdirecting it though. Channel it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    Shit, I don't even like you. And yet I agree with what you say: It's better to live your anger.

    That doesn't mean misdirecting it though. Channel it well.
    I'm not a fan of you, either, why would I be?

    You're cute when you try to "manage" people's anger ...are you really SLE or a Fe type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    I'm not a fan of you, either, why would I be?

    You're cute when you try to "manage" people's anger ...are you really SLE or a Fe type?
    i'm not anything, i'm just me. i think the main problem with people and anger is usually not that they're angry, but that they misdirect anger and don't channel it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    i'm not anything, i'm just me. i think the main problem with people and anger is usually not that they're angry, but that they misdirect anger and don't channel it well.
    I don't thoroughly dislike you, don't worry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    Interesting timing for this topic because I am BOILING MAD! I am consumed with WRATH. I feel VICTIMIZED by years of NEGLECT. Aaaaaaagh!

    The outward manifestations of this RAGE are brief sentences spoken completely devoid of emotion. Nothing is being thrown, no cursing is taking place internally or externally. Yet I am radiating an electric current of anger that is not going unnoticed. If that tantrum guy from that other thread were in the room with me he would be stricken into silence by my what is coming out of my eyes. I am being careful not to allow my gaze to fall on any living creature because they would be vaporized by it. I am fairly sure that I am taking years off my life by allowing my emotion to fuel this fire in me. But I don't CARE!!!!! I feel confident that I will maintain this silent rage for the rest of the night and into the morning and then I am going to get the revenge that I know will change my life forever.

    My next post will be entitled "Iris Loses It."
    “Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
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