Simple.
Alpha
EIE
IEI
Beta ST
Gamma
Delta ST
IEE
If Maritsa weren't an EII, what type would she be?
Simple.
ESI.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
every body is just going to have to have it go through their system, aren't they. It's like watching a disease spread through people. *sigh* at another maritsa thread.
the type that nobody else would say
i put isfj because i dont see any intuition from her.
What type do you think she is?Originally Posted by Ezra
It's a good question, but it probably isn't really the point, it seems a few people are pretty much just having their replacement Phaedrus.
Obviously EIE.
HERHERHER.
I am nothing like Phaedrus. He didn't know how to consider others' opinions for shit. I consider them, and mostly think they're shit.
I am INFj/EII...my goodness!!!
Redbaron is EIE; I am a little like her but not Ni oriented. My dual has Ni poLR and I make sure I don't apply pressure where it hurts.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think Cyclops was calling Maritsa Phaedrus... more of the sense of the forum's attitude toward her than in the sense of her behavior.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
This exchange between Cyclops and I should proove it all to anyone who knows a thing about socionics....
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...0-post769.html
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
He noticed the Se PoLR common trait between him and I and he is correct, both EII and LII have this in common with one another.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
So she's EIE? Sounds good to me.
Bad because you are not ESTj...
You will come to that understanding about yourself once you are about to date and marry.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Can I ask what makes you think that? I know you see lots of Fe from her, but would you mind expanding a little on it? How do you think/feel she is an activity relation, for example?
I hope you're not referring to mine.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
Fe? What does Fe mean Minde?Can I ask what makes you think that? I know you see lots of Fe from her, but would you mind expanding a little on it? How do you think/feel she is an activity relation, for example?
I hope you're not referring to mine.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Minde? What does Fe mean? You can't very well accuse a person of showing Fe, if you don't know what it means...can you?Can I ask what makes you think that? I know you see lots of Fe from her, but would you mind expanding a little on it? How do you think/feel she is an activity relation, for example?
I hope you're not referring to mine.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Why don't you save yourself the trouble and ask one of the three ESE's that I have typed or EIE (Redbaron); that way you can UNDERSTAND what it is that you are trying to UNDERSTAND.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Fe is responsible for the perception of an emotional state in an individual and the bodily and linguistic expression of emotions. Fe is able to influence others' emotional condition and to communicate its own, "infecting" others. Fe is used especially in generating and recognizing excitement and enthusiasm.
Reference
For example, in writing,gets expressed using ???!!!
:frown:
or by using (as you have done above) UPPERCASE UNDERLINE and BOLD LET'S ADD COLOR
Using these types of expressions on occasion doesn't make you
So, the above definition, I think, is what most think of
Hope this helps.
Bolding underlying and blowing things up in my case represents weak Se PoLR to push a point accross. Because I use it in the appropriate manner; where Fe ego block would use it against the situation...ie when the mood is bad to uplift them; where I use it when the mood is bad to get my point across.Fe is responsible for the perception of an emotional state in an individual and the bodily and linguistic expression of emotions. Fe is able to influence others' emotional condition and to communicate its own, "infecting" others. Fe is used especially in generating and recognizing excitement and enthusiasm.
Reference
For example, in writing,
Using these types of expressions on occasion doesn't make you
So, the above definition, I think, is what most think of
Hope this helps.
Fe indicates infecting others emotions with use of words to uplift their emotions or to get a certain mixed expressions from an individual like telling funny matters or showing funny pictures...What Tereg does very well is Fe usage.... I have not ever told a funny story on the forum in the months that I have been here...this would be the serious nature in me.
I wanted so much for Minde to answer this question as it was clear that she did not know. In Minde's case, she uses a lot of rolling eyes other symbols of Fe.
Thank you Nik that was a good deffinition but usage of it in the appropriate context is more important in determining one's type.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I wouldn't answer you either if I was treated by you in the same manner. I think it's very rude, pushy and bullying. It's also selfish on your part. This sort of badgering does nothing to help your cause in trying to understand your point of view. It's unfortunate you can't see this.
Rude? -I have never cursed at anyone and I never will, but you have observed how people, a whole line of them have been so rude to me from my very first day here. All kinds of rude things, cursing, opening threads that are pushy and irrelevent.
Bullying? -When people make false and unfounded assumptions about a person's type, that they have not examined their perspective and all they do is buy a type only to be so unsure of it and change it once a week...otherwords very few people really had ears to listen and read what I wrote, even when I did write them in bold print.
Pushy? -yes. With Se PoLR you can still see the pushy? Read Cyclops comment again please -I keep having to say this to people who don't read as much as I do. You are now applying pressure to my Se PoLR because I feel that everything I wrote you didn't read part of and missed important conclusions and now I feel, in this situation, like doing things in BoLD and unerlining for you so you can see and comprehend.
Look at Tereg here in this thread; he not answering my question... and Minde below with her not answering my question...that puts pressure on my PoLR
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ense-hugs.html
But, being INFj, I don't ignor people, because they are an important part of life and existance and I can't turn situations where they just don't get it away and ignor them and it avails me to further of these pressure.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Being rude is not just about cursing. You know that. Please, Maritsa. Don't by silly.
What you are doing to Minde is bullying. It's irrelevant at this point whether she is listening to you or not. There's no point in pushing the issue; you can't force someone to see your point of view. Yet you persist with double triple posts, being aggressive and provoking. As I said, I don't think you understand how aggressive you are acting.Bullying? -When people make false and unfounded assumptions about a person's type, that they have not examined their perspective and all they do is buy a type only to be so unsure of it and change it once a week...otherwords very few people really had ears to listen and read what I wrote, even when I did write them in bold print.
In fact, I'll help you along. The next time this happens, I'll be sure to report it.
It's begging the questions, it's neither aggression or provoking. It's like asking someone to answer your question and you know they are not listening to you...maybe it's ADD? And they don't listen on purpose because they will further damage their own reputation and damage their own argument.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Maritsa is too Se to be EII. I think a typing of EIE has some good merits. She needs to learn to use her Ni more constructively though.
She probably doesn't think your thoughts are relevant to Socionics.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
In this post, You will see and read the use of Fe made at the bottom PS...Mindy
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...8-post792.html
That rules out EIE for me. Have a good day. Oh, I will also try to find one that Tereg posted as an example for you.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Unreal.
Again, another provocation/snipe.
In here you will see Tereg using Fe and he got many people to chuckle over his comment...
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/635738-post38.html
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
A few months before you joined, someone changed my avatar to one of a beatten up woman with big bruises over her face; I was going to inform the FBI that someone made my personal information available on this site (an administrator) and that I was going to make a public announcements so that other people would be informed of this.
The avatar was a threat and had a message on it that "This is what happend when you don't listen."
That is up with that behavior Suzzy, and before you assume stuff maybe you should try asking.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
First, IEEs and EIIs have strong Fe. Unvalued, but strong.
Second, not everything anyone says that makes someone laugh is proof that someone has Fe in the ego block. My SLI husband occasionally says something funny.
Third, people are just plain more complex than "he made people chuckle therefore he must be X type." That's just silly.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
In case anyone is curious as to my current main reason for not talking to Maritsa:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post634650
As I said in the reply to that, it's pointless to try to talk to someone who won't believe you.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
She's like a little pitbull, though. She absolutely will not give up on you. You might be happier with her on ignore. Though I have a hard time keeping people on ignore because I'm always curious about what they're saying, so I know it's easier said than done.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I will when I feel comfortable that that won't happen to me again...that was a very painful experience for me.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think ESFj. It explains the Fe, and I don't get an ENFj vibe because her posts don't bother me all that much. I think she's a confused ESFj who feels she is not confused (and strongly feels that way). I think an INTj would really do her a lot of good. Any INTjs down for the challenge?
Also look at her picture and does she not resemble the ESFj thing? Remember the racoon thing? Does no one else see that? (And this is not in a bad way...someone was saying all ESFjs looked like racoons in a good way).
Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)
I just wrote why I don't not displayed Fe ...and why it's Se PolR.
Fe holders elicit reactions they don't state their mood.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Everyone has a post history.
If you look at mine you will see that there is none of the things in my writing that you profess that I hold, things like bullying, pushing shoving or other...just read my post log and you can observe that.
In here...
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...earchid=606358
Sometimes it's perception more then what it really is.
If you read Marcutio's backlog of posts against me, and compare, then maybe you can see the bully behind the post.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
That's rather what I think, though I probably couldn't say "obviously" about it. I don't know how to explain it though, so it's another helpful contribution on my part, like putting in my "vote" for no reason.
While I'm at it, I see ESI as just not very likely. (And EII would still be something I see worthy of considering.)
I think she's good at Ne but she just would not rather use it (even though she successfully has in the past when she's been asked). Ne to her is a kind of skip-over-step, which is why I thought Ne-PoLR made sense. I see her really trying to use Se with Fe instead, and I think EIE has some merits.
Those descriptions are based off of in-person, long-term, close (or relatively close) psychological distance relationships. While I don't doubt your claim, it's not anything to go by.
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