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    Hmm, perhaps the threat is that women make men fall for them, and so men lose their reason. Like Helene of Troy, who's the main responsible for Troy's war, and like Eve, who's guilty of our misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    Hmm, perhaps the threat is that women make men fall for them, and so men lose their reason. Like Helene of Troy, who's the main responsible for Troy's war, and like Eve, who's guilty of our misery.
    I can't tell if this is serious or not. But my feeling about this is that when people are angered because something didn't go well for them they look for someone or something to blame, something to attach that anger to. I find with myself that the last target of my anger in these cases is myself (though this isn't to say that I am not often the first and last target of my anger), and that's the final stage before letting go of that anger by accepting whatever it is about *myself* that led to what has hurt or angered me. In this sense it's no longer about who or what is at fault, but about how this anger is MY anger and therefore the only one responsible for it in my internal world is me, and usually it is poisoning my internal world in some sense, sometimes becoming hate, and it's in my best interest to deal with it in a way that doesn't hurt myself or others. Naturally, no one is perfect and we do hit others with our anger, and I still don't know how to apply anger constructively (see 9 in tritype).

    So I think what happens when the power in a society rests with males > females and there is a clear social patriarchy, that when matters of love go badly, or even other matters, men may target women or a woman in particular with their anger. So it seems that often times it can go one of two ways (though of course I'm sure there are more ways) in that a man will revere "his woman" because he finds her devotion and person admirable according to the ideal of the feminine in his culture (and because she has not shunned him, rejected him, or decided she wants to leave) and he may even consider himself her "slave" in his own devotion; or a man will resent and hate "his woman" and womankind as deceivers, spiritually lacking, unworthy of the ideal of the feminine in their culture, and so on. If she wishes to leave him or falls out of love with him, his suffering is considered *her* fault. She made him fall for her, she led him on, she betrayed him, she ripped him away from his sense of reason and now he is lost in a realm of emotion and desire which she denies him any relief of. And so his love turns to hate and she must be punished.

    And ironically, even though he holds more power than she does, he believes she holds all the power because he sees his reactions to her as her fault and takes no responsibility for his own feelings. If in his culture men are encouraged to be tough and not show vulnerability, then he may have a low level of emotional intelligence and so he doesn't see that his lack of skill in this is due to a lacking *he* has rather than being the fault of women. And it's not necessarily his fault that he has poor emotional management skills when it comes to his own emotions, because he likely wasn't taught such skills if men are not supposed to be "emotional" in this way and "emotion" is considered in the realm of the feminine. And women themselves in such a culture may only confirm this because they are raised to embrace emotion even perhaps over reason.

    These kinds of resentments towards someone romantically can be experienced by anyone regardless of their biological sex. Many break-ups are nasty and both parties resent and blame the other. But it's also true that no one makes us fall for them, no one makes us lose our reason, no one forces us to the realm of emotion and desire and strands us there. And as long as society is equal between the sexes, no one sex can truly be labeled as the source of the other's misery in any way that matters on the social level.

    A general principle operating I think is that when one has more social power than another and one is overcome with anger, one tends to hit those with less power, because one can. This kind of bullying down the social hierarchy is not just a human thing, but can be seen in some other complex social animals as well, primates and apes included.

    And the story of Adam and Eve is from a patriarchal culture, and this shows throughout the Bible.
    Last edited by marooned; 05-18-2018 at 04:18 PM.

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