Note: Don't be afraid to vote!! You don't have to know all details of me in order to vote. Vote according to your "guts" or your "head" or whatever. If you roughly know who I am and maybe even have patience to read this post then you are a perfect voter. And I don't have any bias on this so no need to try to please me. I can handle any result like a (wo)MAN and I have the right to disagree, hehe.
It is known that people sometimes mistake themselves as their duals. Environment may make them overuse their "dual block" and neglect their true strengths. I made a separate thread of this to general discussion so don't discuss the issue here in general level.
This thread is for a) discussion about the difference between ENFj and ISTj (they have more in common than you would think) and b) voting and discussing which of these devils I am.
For more information see my official typing thread: http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...525&highlight=
and my Beta welcome thread: http://the16types.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3601
This is the summary of the case for both types:
Case 1:
I'm ENFj (FeNi) with ISTj (TiSe) tendencies
+ My forum/chat personality so far been clearly more ENFj according to most people. No one has seriously thought I'm ISTj (so far)
+ ENFj is most popular VI result
+ ENFj profiles generally match me "ok" or "why not" except they somehow give softer, more social and more extroverted impression than I would like
+ Self-made and wife assisted functional analysis points to ENFj or INFp functional preferences
- I never thought I'm ENFj before I got here and started to learn the functions and the theory and discuss with people about socionics. The ENFj descriptions didn't strike me that well pre-forum time
-> Removed the relationship part, see discussion below
- There is a tiny but loud minority of forum members who remain convinced I'm not ENFj
Case 2:
I'm ISTj (TiSe) with ENFj (NeFi) tendencies
+ My first MBTI test said INTJ (I didn't know anything about the theory)
+ I once also thought to be MBTI ISTP which roughly corresponds to socionics ISTj (I could relate to TiSe but my understanding of the functions was quite limited)
+ I thought to be ST while I came here (but my first test result was NT). I had never got a test result of F before coming here (but some people here quickly said I'm more likely F)
-> Removed the relationship part, see discussion below
- ISTj descriptions don't seem to fit as well as ENFj descriptions. However there are ISTj descriptions that fit better than the others. Some give "maybe" fit and some "not probable" fit
- I was encouraged to be physical when child (parents, friends) and did lots of sports because of that. When I went to college that changed quickly and I became way more "mental". So childhood environment might have encouraged me to develop my ISTj tendencies more than ENFj tendencies.
- Majority of people think my written/forum/chat argumentation style strongly utilizes Fe and only occasionally Ti
- There is a large and loud majority of forum members who are convinced I'm not ISTj.
So which is more likely my real personality type and which is my dual personality which is only partly me? I know I have something from both but I'm not 100% sure which is dA mAsTeR.