Racism, profiling and culturalism

[mu4]

Would you consider this discrimination fundamentally different from, say, someone being discriminated against because he is a fat nerd? Besides the fact that you are born into a race/ethnicity.

Sure it's different, fat nerds are ewwwww...



Would I hire a morbidly obese individual to be a Victoria secret model, no. There's a lot of everyday prejudice and everyday discrimination that occurs in the world, we give and we take in these areas of life because people aren't perfect. However there have been measures in the present and past which disenfranchise individuals or problems which arise from these everyday prejudices that result in harm. Things like poll taxes or laws to restrict voting rights in order to disenfranchise individuals in society, or the death penalty which is applied unequally for the same crime because of the color of someone's skin or based on ethnic background.

The world is not equal, fair or just, people are not the same. We can only hope to do what we can in the face of inequality, unfairness and injustice. We can only hope to give everyone a fair shake at opportunity, give some aid to those that have been wronged, and make what amends which can be made.

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There's a lot of everyday prejudice and everyday discrimination that occurs in the world, we give and we take in these areas of life because people aren't perfect.

Explaining the problem to be the lack of perfection is a fairly vague approach.

To everyone:
Two equally qualified candidates are looking trying to land a job from you. The other one apparently belongs to a group that has higher rates of crime and antisocial behavior. Which one do you hire?

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Two equally qualified candidates are looking trying to land a job from you. The other one apparently belongs to a group that has higher rates of crime and antisocial behavior. Which one do you hire?

The other one so he/she can kill people for me and I wouldn't have to get my hands dirty.

[mu4]

Explaining the problem to be the lack of perfection is a fairly vague approach.

To everyone:
Two equally qualified candidates are looking trying to land a job from you. The other one apparently belongs to a group that has higher rates of crime and antisocial behavior. Which one do you hire?

My approach isn't vague, I'm just explaining the situation.

This shouldn't be considered and is against the law in the US "The other one apparently belongs to a group that has higher rates of crime and antisocial behavior."

Since I've rarely met two equally qualified candidates to hire. Generally each individual has some advantage and some disadvantage, the hiring process is about finding the right fit for the position.

If I were to find two truly equal candidates(or I couldn't tell) to hire, I would flip a coin. Also if the 2 candidates was of very high quality, I would hire both of them, or ensure that I could have the opportunity to hire them in the future.

Once you place the situation in reality, you see quickly that this hypothetical situation almost never happens, and generally this is just a excuse to discriminate against the individual that belongs to a certain group.

When dealing with complex systems the ceteris paribus argument is not functional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceteris_paribus

Science stands today on something of a divide. For two centuries it has been exploring systems that are either intrinsically simple or capable of being analysed into simple components. The fact that such a dogma as >>vary the factors one at a time<< could be accepted for a century shows that scientists were largely concerned in investigating such systems as allowed this method, for this method is often fundamentally impossible in the complex systems. Not until Sir Ronald Fisher's work in the 1920s, with experiments conducted on agricultural soils, did it become clearly recognised that there are complex systems that just do not allow the varying of only one factor at a time — they are so dynamic and interconnected that the alteration of one factor
immediately acts as cause to evoke alterations in others, perhaps in a great many others. Until recently, science tended to evade the study of such systems, focusing its attention on those that were simple and, especially, reducible

Ceteris paribus is a useful technique for scientific investigation where single factors can be discretely manipulated, but when applied to fundamentally complex situations such as ethics, it's not functional.

The charge, then, is that ineliminable ceteris paribus clauses in an analysis conceal a conceptual circularity. Jerry Fodor in "Psychosemantics" states that a statement of the form Ceteris paribus A is equivalent to saying, A...unless not A, making them vacuously true and really rather pointless.

[Ryan]

Explaining the problem to be the lack of perfection is a fairly vague approach.

To everyone:
Two equally qualified candidates are looking trying to land a job from you. The other one apparently belongs to a group that has higher rates of crime and antisocial behavior. Which one do you hire?