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    Is Socrates because he protested against the mob mentality of his countrymen, and plead that they stop and listen to reason.. to live "examined" lives?

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    What does ethics have to do with morality? This seems to be an equivocation on the word "ethics"

    I was under the impression was about the maintenance/understanding the relational attitudes people have with one another.

    , the recognition of emotional states.

    Am I missing something here?

    I thought morality was more of a prouduct of cultural influence, as well as the human instincts/need for social co-operation.
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    The mode of goodness conditions one to happiness, passion conditions him to the fruits of action, and ignorance to madness.

    Chapter 14, Verse 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neotropic View Post
    What does ethics have to do with morality? This seems to be an equivocation on the word "ethics"

    I was under the impression was about the maintenance/understanding the relational attitudes people have with one another.
    , the recognition of emotional states.

    Am I missing something here?
    Good question. On a practical level, ethics exist in order to define these relational attitudes. If they are considered on a more theoretical level then some comes into play. IMO has nothing to do with "ethics" per se, much like has nothing to do with "logic" per se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Good question. On a practical level, ethics exist in order to define these relational attitudes. If they are considered on a more theoretical level then some comes into play. IMO has nothing to do with "ethics" per se, much like has nothing to do with "logic" per se.
    Thanks for your response. You've given me something to consider here.

    I think it's a little immature to put something as open ended and nuance as "morality" down to nothing but how you vaule your "ethics" functions though.
    The mode of goodness conditions one to happiness, passion conditions him to the fruits of action, and ignorance to madness.

    Chapter 14, Verse 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    If they are considered on a more theoretical level then some comes into play. IMO
    And they will be considered. or may go about it in a different manner, but I don't see how it's an avoidable subject for either one (I would say that a Se type's inclination to theorize would usually be more emergent and directly situational). Outside some people being constantly distracted with their own narcissism and juvenile interests (which can happen), they're going to be moral in some way. It's a shared interest across all of the types.

    Hopefully this doesn't look too conventional, but one could even look at "archetypes" and come to some impression that morality is still a noticable trait in types. I could see the of "Zhukov" being more naturalistic in their worldviews. Not necessarily reaching idealistic conclusions about morality, but being practical and honorable in some way, more or less. Quixote and Robespierre are very much idealists though. What does Dostoevsky have that necessarily makes him more moral? That wasn't the distinction being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neotropic View Post
    Am I missing something here?
    No. Thank you.

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