Male INFj and female ESTj (EII-LSE)

[Marie84]

For instance,



Who doesn't?

I was referring to Ryu's post, as in the vulnerability that Delta ST's have when it comes to needing someone else to supply the emotional input and security in relationships. The divide between wanting and needing it but being without the skills to supply it, relying on others for assistance and reassurance

I thought that was obvious and didn't require an echoing of what Ryu already posted

[Creepy-Cyclops]

I was referring to Ryu's post, as in the vulnerability that Delta ST's have when it comes to needing someone else to supply the emotional input and security in relationships. The divide between wanting and needing it but being without the skills to supply it, relying on others for assistance and reassurance

Indeed, which is why I mentioned something earlier in the thread about relationships not being my forte, and that the F type sets the lead which I tend to follow.

I guess the short version wasn't as useful as the long version, lol.

I thought that was obvious and didn't require an echoing of what Ryu already posted

Ah, OK.

[tiny_dancer]

I think it's astonishing how people can give advice to a person (two people in this instance) who've known each other for ages and having what seems to be a difficult stage in their relationship, who they don't even know and even over internet but somehow think that their own relationship fears etc can somehow translate into being useful and not condescending or something.

Everyone's different and there are too many factors involved which socionics doesn't necessarily have to do with.

Say the person isn't providing enough effort or w/e, you can say it's because they are such and such a type, but if you're not happy with what they are doing, can't force the person to change.

So maybe you are looking for advice on how to make her "change", can't help you there speak to one of her pals or something.

Well, he doesn't have to listen. Usually when I post stuff like that, I'm not looking for someone to actually think for me. My gut already knows what the deal is, but I need a way to dissipate internal upset. Having emotional support is nice. I think you'd have to be crazy to just take verbatim some random person's advice without thinking about it for yourself.

But ultimately I agree with what you're saying - don't project socionics onto an issue that may not have anything to do with it.

but if you're not happy with what they are doing, can't force the person to change.

This is true. If you're truly not happy, then you're not happy.