Yeah, I've been doing some thinking myself and ILI/SLE/SLI and maybe, only maybe LSI are the only ones I could even remotely be.Originally Posted by Winterpark
Yeah, I've been doing some thinking myself and ILI/SLE/SLI and maybe, only maybe LSI are the only ones I could even remotely be.
Read more. And try to reflect on that.
socionics.us, wikisocion.org, (and that russian site, I don't have the link here...) have some really helpful and useful information.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
To me, you have an "in your face" quality that seems very uncharacteristic of SLIs.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Shut up, horn head. The only effect your comment could have is to increase her doubts.
Last edited by Park; 10-08-2008 at 09:02 PM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
i agree.
increasing doubts is bad. doubt is the enemy of truth. anyone who doubts anything is less likely to have firm convictions. and firm convictions are always right.
And your sarcasm is pathetic and pointless.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Pretty ironic coming from you.
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Winterpark, I think we're just a bunch of SLI's. It's odd how drastic your personality can change depending on the situation. My personality is completely different at work, with family, with boyfriend, with friends (okay, i have a few)...which one do you go by? ha
i don't understand this at all. why do you socionix people believe that i have ultrarigid-phaedrus-autistic views?
does that really look like what i do to you at all? i really don't get it.
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SLIs can certainly have anxiety disorders. My husband had anxiety attacks at one point in his life he had to be medicated for. I don't know if any type is more or less prone to them but anxiety doesn't rule out SLI anyway. Hmmm LSIs have Ne PoLR, and SLIs who have no one near them with strong Ne could have difficulties due to their lack of Ne as well. So maybe LSIs would be more prone to them generally, but SLIs could be prone to that problem depending on the circumstances.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
That's where I get confused. I try to be myself on here at all times and for the most part, I think I am but of course, we all say things online we wouldn't necessarily say in real life. When I think of SLI, I think calm, cool, collected, never prone to aggressiveness, stable moods, etc. And uh, I don't think you could possibly describe me as such. I think the main thing here that screws everything up and makes nothing make sense is that I'm very shy but yet extremely aggressive and 'in your face' when need be--sometimes too much--and to me, SLI's don't seem prone to that...at all. It's almost like I have split personalities in that regard. I can't collect my thoughts, more later.
It depends on who're you around. I'm pretty much like that when I'm alone or with certain folks I bond with, other times I can be anything you could imagine.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I'm not sure if I can help you just now, only give you more to think about.. I think some people can get confused about how Fe PoLR manifests itself and that of Se ego. You could maybe read into Fe PoLR and Se ego.
I don't have an opinion on your type just now. I think you should read into things on your own as well as asking for others input here.. Maybe someone else will post here with information which is more directly applicable to you.
Last edited by Cyclops; 10-08-2008 at 09:28 PM. Reason: typo
varying manifestations of behavior...sound like Fe values to anyone else?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
this is actually the part that reminds me most of my ISTP friend. she always claims to be shy and nervous in social situations but it's not obvious at all. in fact, the forceful thing is sort of something she tends to do to cover up her shyness. I've seen the way she acts around groups of people and in more intimate settings, so I can tell that she's putting on a "role" in the former. In groups of emotionally expressive and crazy people she gets really nervous that she can't provide the "reaction" that people want from her, so she either goes into Tom Cruise Clown Mode and is like "hey!!! muffin!!!!!!!!!!!!!" or she says things super bluntly and taciturnly.
From my perspective, the "in your face" thing is just Fe-devaluing. Aren't there some INTPs on the forum who are just as forceful in that manner?
If it helps, the way I would describe the difference between INTPs and ISTPs is that the INTP seems more "arrogant" (i.e. "listen to me knock down theories and make vague generalizations from my own perspective"-- Ni leading, Se DS) whereas the ISTP seems more "stubborn" ("no, that is not what people do/how things work/etc. no, no, oh..... maybe? Si leading, Ne DS).
Also, I think you show the same kind of Fi valuing that my friend shows, which is hard to describe, but....umm... it's sort of like you say things that you know can be construed as immoral and mean (e.g. when you stole the fat girl's hot dogs), but you don't really intend it that way. Though people may think you are, you're not really criticising the fat girl; you're playfully mocking the situation because you can (i.e. there are no "bad" consequences). The reason for this is that you feel awkward directly asserting yourself as an ethical person, so you do things in which you illustrate that underneath the front you project, you're actually a good intentioned person. An ENFP would perceive this "good person potential" aspect of you instantly in that story, which (subconsciously) is I think what motivates you to tell it.
That, and because ISTPs do like to be the center of attention....at times.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
I really like this post. Especially the Tom Cruise comment, lol.this is actually the part that reminds me most of my ISTP friend. she always claims to be shy and nervous in social situations but it's not obvious at all. in fact, the forceful thing is sort of something she tends to do to cover up her shyness. I've seen the way she acts around groups of people and in more intimate settings, so I can tell that she's putting on a "role" in the former. In groups of emotionally expressive and crazy people she gets really nervous that she can't provide the "reaction" that people want from her, so she either goes into Tom Cruise Clown Mode and is like "hey!!! muffin!!!!!!!!!!!!!" or she says things super bluntly and taciturnly.
From my perspective, the "in your face" thing is just Fe-devaluing. Aren't there some INTPs on the forum who are just as forceful in that manner?
If it helps, the way I would describe the difference between INTPs and ISTPs is that the INTP seems more "arrogant" (i.e. "listen to me knock down theories and make vague generalizations from my own perspective"-- Ni leading, Se DS) whereas the ISTP seems more "stubborn" ("no, that is not what people do/how things work/etc. no, no, oh..... maybe? Si leading, Ne DS).
Also, I think you show the same kind of Fi valuing that my friend shows, which is hard to describe, but....umm... it's sort of like you say things that you know can be construed as immoral and mean (e.g. when you stole the fat girl's hot dogs), but you don't really intend it that way. Though people may think you are, you're not really criticising the fat girl; you're playfully mocking the situation because you can (i.e. there are no "bad" consequences). The reason for this is that you feel awkward directly asserting yourself as an ethical person, so you do things in which you illustrate that underneath the front you project, you're actually a good intentioned person. An ENFP would perceive this "good person potential" aspect of you instantly in that story, which (subconsciously) is I think what motivates you to tell it.
That, and because ISTPs do like to be the center of attention....at times.
About the 'anxiety'...I used to have super, super bad anxiety but it's almost non-existant now. Proud to say I've ditched the meds too. I suck at social situations, that's nothing new, but I'm finding the anxiety is easing up for the simple fact i just don't care anymore. Maybe it's old age. Oh well. Okay guys, I'm still ISTP.
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