VI this couple, please!
VI this couple, please!
Idk about VI, but in the pic with the grey shirt, I saw Adam Sandler in the guys smile.
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
Reminds me of a calmer version of a guy I think was ExTj.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
IEE-SLI?
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I think that works.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
I was thinking EII-SLI, but IEE-SLI wouldn't surprise me either. Her body language seems relatively withdrawn, and her facial expressions don't project much Fe, other than in the first picture, which in my mind would fit Ignoring Fe better than Demonstrative Fe.
Mind you, standing next to the SLI, she looks positively exuberant and outgoing by comparison.
Quaero Veritas.
That guy reminds me of a guy I dated. And I kinda resemble the chick. So I can see how that mesh up is compatible. (I liked him a lot we might get back together in the future. Possibly)
the guy is LSE. I remember him from last year.
Thanks to all who've posted so far!
So right now the majority rule is ST for the guy, NF for the girl, Delta>Beta.
Keep the opinions coming! About TYPE, that is...Ashton.
I would say "the girl" VIs Fi-IEE, not ruling out the possibility of EII.
you guys just seem like a delta couple overall, to me.
well, he doesn't seem especially IP.
Girl seems ENFj, not really sure about the guy although ESTj would really shock me if he was
my twin sister has found love I see...
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i didn't read what anybody else wrote.
the girl. IEI.
the guy: EIE.
still lookin good sirena! :-)
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
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He just doesn't fit the profile of an ESTj...at all. I could maybe buy ISTp, but not ESTj. It's just not within the realm of possibility. I should probably try to go into more detail than this, but at this point I don't know how I can go about describing this impression. It'll just turn into stupid oversimplifications that don't do it justice. Basically, my idea of Te leading and Si creative don't fit with how he is.
No, that doesn't describe him at all.
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I already stated that I don't think I can do that without making them sound like a cartoon. I wouldn't even know where to start.
But that's not what I said. Basically, my response was a reaction to the aggression label that you, like many others, add to anything "Beta". All such descriptions all seem to have that embedded tone to them and it irritates me. Betas=assholes. Personally, I think some people conveniently use this to try to justify their antisocial behavior. So, that's what I responded to.
I never said that he doesn't deal with the value of things or people. He does, but he's not an aggressive, argumentative jerk about it.
Having said the above...no, I'm not counting on him being Beta or Delta. I don't see one as better than the other. Hell, I don't even know my own type and for all I know any of the 4 NFs are possible for me. We have been in a very close relationship for over a year now and it only gets better, so I already consider us a "perfect couple". There's nothing missing that I'm trying to figure out from this. It's even funny to me that you would say that, because if he were an ESTj, then ESTj's are the most awesome type in the world! I just don't think ESTj deserves that kind of credit, lol.And no, that's not LSE but rather SLE (just my opinion, if you prefer). I think you're biased and deny what might consider you not closed to a "perfect couple", is this maybe why you rejected those traits as LSE?
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Concluding, from VI only I'd say Beta ST for him; from posts (but no problem with VI) I'd say you're Fe Rational - EIE or ESE. When you want something, not even hell can stop you .
Oh, and ESE is also an IMPOSSIBLE type for me.
What do you mean by "when I want something, nothing can stop me"? I'm honestly curious because I'd like to elaborate on that, as I find that to be true in some ways, though not in others.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't see any implications of "Betas=assholes" in Pinocchio's posts in this thread. The worst thing he implied was that SLEs like to argue, but that's not the same as being an asshole. Pinocchio's description seemed pretty accurate and neutral to me.
Quaero Veritas.
Really? Because it seems to me that saying that someone's way of achieving something, like "evaluating people" (for instance) is by arguing and aggressively poking at people is a way to color this stereotype. If anything, this seems to me like a description of someone that doesn't have very good control over their surroundings. Seems pretty counter-intuitive. Is it not possible for Beta ST's to be nice, chill people who know when and when not to react because of their strong Se, instead of insecure assholes that go around starting trouble? The kind of reasoning that says this is even type-related and moreover related to Se ego, is so stupid to me.
I'm inclined to go towards
LSE - Him
EII or IEE - Her
What types are they?
IEE-Ne
to me, it just seemed like he was pointing to the tendency of beta STs to quickly and adeptly size up someone's capability, with regard to a given task, and be direct about what they should do. it's actually this trait that aids beta NFs (more so IEIs), as they tend to be somewhat uncertain about their position/value on a concrete level, and need very simple, clear indicators to better focus their typically wavering energies.
not necessarily. I would contrast it to delta STs (more so LSEs), who don't pinpoint the effect of objects (aka people) as well, but rather maintain a consistent upkeep on concrete action. this can lead to overlooking more basic assessments of people in favor of what kind of "productive work" they can do within a given setting.If anything, this seems to me like a description of someone that doesn't have very good control over their surroundings.
yes, it is possible, and nothing in his post suggested otherwise. every type has its virtues and vices.Seems pretty counter-intuitive. Is it not possible for Beta ST's to be nice, chill people who know when and when not to react because of their strong Se, instead of insecure assholes that go around starting trouble? The kind of reasoning that says this is even type-related and moreover related to Se ego, is so stupid to me.
The woman reminds me of EII I know. I could see SLI for the guy, though any introverted thinker would do.
IME anyone can be like this. I accept that Beta STs can be more like this, but what if we meet another type who does this. Some other type might have a focus on their Se, other beta STs a focus on their Ti, or something not socionic related.
Which is the problem with these types of posts. People are often too complex to have these binary definitions.
I can see your question relating to the functions, however these boxing in complicates behavior with psychological underpinnings, ie their type. I don't know what the right questions should be: I think it is best not to ask these questions at all, which means we can't type over the internet without exceptional difficulty, so this method of dialogue is a waste of time. And the proof is in the unresolved typing threads and the varying people we meet.
Edit: A bigger question, and not just to you: isn't socionics over the internet therefore simply a mental masturbation?
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Are you always so bad at reading people? I wasn't being defensive, just answering your comment.
As I said, he does this, just not "argumentatively or aggressively", which is what I had a problem with. He's more charismatic than pushy.
Honestly, the above fits him much better than this.[/QUOTE]not necessarily. I would contrast it to delta STs (more so LSEs), who don't pinpoint the effect of objects (aka people) as well, but rather maintain a consistent upkeep on concrete action. this can lead to overlooking more basic assessments of people in favor of what kind of "productive work" they can do within a given setting.
@sirena, I think the woman looks IEE, I am much less confident of the males type, so I won't guess. Maybe i'll become more sure at a later date.
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