let's debate their type and put them in the opposing quadra.
that way we can justify our own position and feel better about ourselves.
let's debate their type and put them in the opposing quadra.
that way we can justify our own position and feel better about ourselves.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
You copied that from an Augusta article didn't you?
has to be said.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
you know as irritating as this is, it HAS helped out a bunch of people here find their true types or quadras; mine included
either ignore them, or challenge their typing and put them to shame. people are going to do it, and I don't think its neccessarily a bad thing. irritating at times, sure, but its not the worst thing to happen. when you don't challenge understanding, thats where the problems arise.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
Good question. It was the thing coming before world domination and profit...What's the next plan?
i don't have a problem with the debate. what i have a problem with is when we say they must belong in an opposing quadra and look how effed up that quadra and person are. or when we say no, you don't belong in MY quadra, mine neither, mine neither....go outside the socion and play alone.
that sucks and i hate when we do that.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
They tried to ban me several times; that was emotionally draining on me but with the same account, I tried to tell or show that I am an EII and I don't exclude people, I include them and I don't mind people from other quadras commenting on "my" (whatever that means) quadra.
Blaze, you should look at Si and territory and even Se and territory with this regards.
Seriously? What are you saying here?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Even better, let's debate their type and put them in our own quadra so we can prolly say "something is rotten in the state of Netherlands". That way we can feel either better or worse about ourselves.let's debate their type and put them in the opposing quadra.
that way we can justify our own position and feel better about ourselves.
Sorry, I will calrify. I told Blaze to go back to socionics.ws with the other gamma's and I also called her a harpie.
essentially, the sentance proposes that
1. Blaze is a gamma
2. The other gamma's are at socionics.ws
3. Blaze should go back to socionics.ws with the other gamma's
4. Blaze is a Harpie.
As I expected, a typical gamma response.
IEE-Ne
Si and Se will direct you to the spot you need to be or where they want you to go; I have mentioned this several times with regards to both Tereg and Minde; when someone opens a new thread they point out that a thread of that kind has already been opened; whereas you and I allow or are free in letting people express themselves naturally where ever they are...this is very clear about those two functions in socionics and there are many references to it;
" threats to that territory, and making sure everyone recognizes his leadership and status."
Space is territory to a large extent and Se is space...where did I write something, let me look for it.
here
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...e=Filatova_SEI
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...verted_sensing
Here's my VI; I couldn't find more pictures; my mom above is ILI..
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...vi-photos.html
Extraverted sensing is also called Volitional Sensing, or Space-capturing Sensing.
This sensing function directs to occupation of space. People with this strong function are usually demanding people, which like when other people fulfill their wishes and demands. Sometimes they become managers, and sometimes – good sellers that can sell even unnecessary things. They often (but not always) have athletic, somewhat roundish figure, quick and demanding eyes. They are very persistent in the life: "If I want, then it should be achieved”, and they often gladly help other people – those who accept their leadership. Their outbursts of anger may fear some people, but in fact they are short-term – in several minutes they become calm again and restore their good mood.
I don't do this...directing people to places....
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I will try...
Truth: a conclusion which conforms to a set of assumptions
ILIs basic attitude toward philosophy is to reduce everything to relativism. "is what is" is a redundancy which makes no sense, it's just relative
i love where this went. matthewz and aixlsyd awesome!! :-)
no problemo maritsa....
you see this as sensing related? interesting, i would not have labelled it that way. to me, it seems more like rationality vs irrationality. doing things according to the way they should be, according to agreements and convention vs doing things in a more organic way, based on people's inclinations and what motivates them at the time.Si and Se will direct you to the spot you need to be or where they want you to go; I have mentioned this several times with regards to both Tereg and Minde; when someone opens a new thread they point out that a thread of that kind has already been opened; whereas you and I allow or are free in letting people express themselves naturally where ever they are...this is very clear about those two functions in socionics and there are many references to it;
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
You know, I think it's likely that when people retype someone they probably believe their accurate in doing so and that it isn't based stickily on emotion.
Really I think most of the contention comes from so much disagree as to what the Information Elements mean
EII INFj
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Subjective truth is a contradiction in terms. Truth is objective by necessity. It means "correspondence with the objective, mind-independent reality".
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I get the "Monday morning" thing from a lot of the INTjs on this forum. They have control of this powerful Ti function and do virtually nothing with it. Although my assessment is that you tend not to succeed as much as you believe you do, I already respect you infinitely much more than the average alpha NT for trying to make an impact.
I wonder how many alpha NT's are actually mis-typed though.
By the way, out of all the self-typed ILE's, pinnochio seems to me like the most believable one out them all, it's hardly surprising then that there seems to be so many who think he's not, mis-conceptions of this type explains this phenomenon, along with possibly explaining fake ILE's, even just fake INTj's in general.
Hey, you know, there's a fair few people on this forum who'd accept me as LII, and it's pretty obvious that it's a type i'm not (well, not obvious to quite a few people, obviously).
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Since I removed my self-typing? I did that as a way of escaping conformism because everybody has a self-typing in their sig these days. I prefer for people to "just know" my type so that it becomes more authorative.
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I've discussed and accepted crazier things in my time on the forum.He doesn't dismiss Ba-Gua stuff, energies, philosophical principles, and participates in such discussions - eg that haeceity vs quiddity.
The worst thing happens when the Te type thinks there is some type of objective validity to their conclusions that they reach by means of some form of magic that supposedly makes their judgment absolutely authorative in some way. Another bad situation comes about when singular individuals decide the course of a Te "collective" (R, E).Frankly, it's only a myth that Ti is imposing exclusively, both Ti and Te types try to impose things (especially combined with Se/Ni), it's just my preference for obvious reasons why I prefer the Ti way. The Te one seems so lousy, so dirty that outrages me instantly, it has that "let me explain" when everything is clear for someone and there's obviously nothing to explain, on the other hand it is not so aggressive, direct and harsh.
Sounds like the political Left and Right respectively, contrary to your previously expressed views.Ti totalitarianism than Te imperialism
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Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.