Yeah idk.. I'll give it more time.
The easiest thing for me is to say that there simply is no Fe in your voice, it shows no signs of Fe dominancy or Fe blocked with Si. You don't have any Si, you're obviously looking for it. The idea that you have Si in your ego is rather silly. But that is simply what I see when I interact with you, that's the most direct answer to me, because I know what all that feels like.
You don't value Fe because it is simply a game to you (I suspect that you may actually become less so as youg get older and gain more social acceptence by not being that way; you may start to become more clearly "Fe unvaluing"). I do not see Fi in the service of Fe in any way, and I don't see anything that is subordinated to your Ne dominance. It is pretty clear you are irrational and Ne leading, you've talked about your own EP energy pattern of highs and lows. I certainly don't see you as a T type because how you seek information, the asking and receptivity to it is something you greatly enjoy looking for, it seems. To the point that finding the right answer is almost unimportant; you'd spend time looking for options and the way people think abuot it. That smacks of Ti unvaluing pretty hard.
Similarly, when you ask for explanations, you don't like brief comments, or other typical Ti responses - I think you'd piss someone off if they were Ti dominant, particularly an LSI. It is very, very easy for me to see you as an LSIs conflictor, and quite out of place to think of you as an LSI's semi-dual. Furthermore, your blatant irrationality and EP-ness and Ne dominance would not sit well with an LSI, I don't think.
As much as you are good with people and 'emotions' I don't see you as feeling like you MUST be personally responsible for people's moods (to be very simplistic in how I refer to Fe). I see it as something you are happy to help with, and deal with quite a bit because you are so people focused. But I can easily see your dual as being an SLI, someone whom you don't have to analyze or feel overtly responsible for trying to elevate their mood. That is also related to strong but unvalued Fe. I think you'd ultimately feel worn out by someone who is very strongly expecting Fe from you, because, to me, it's clearly not something you value. But you just like having fun (E7?) and when you have fun there tends to be smiles. I see you as enjoying having fun and good times. But I definitely don't see you as a caregiver or having any sort of Si within you. (talks about physicality).
and so on
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
This is curious, as it seems to be a very common reaction from other IEEs.Originally Posted by Ssmall
Yes. This is my biggest problem with being Alpha SF. Although, I'm curious as to how you see Si-seeking coming through in our interactions. My main sort of internal example of Si-seeking is talking with Isha about sensory things, like food, music, nature or whatever; I don't have a mental log of any sorts of these discussions with you.
I think this is interesting. I'll drag Isha in to give her observations, but I think this evening's festivites were ripe for Socionics analysis.
This is interesting, too. Just in this thread alone, you've seen how mesmerizing Te bases are for me. More observations from this evening re: Te HA vs Te DS too.
Another point that I find curious... even when I've been trying to get a secure viewpoint on things at earlier points in my forum history, I would listen to everyone regardless. Now that I'm secure (due to having my Epic Dual and what I feel to be a sound understanding of Model A), I'm still doing that, just without the anxiety (also contributed to by what I felt was the combative tone of some of the posters in such threads) and cognitive dissonance.
Similarly, when you ask for explanations, you don't like brief comments, or other typical Ti responses - I think you'd piss someone off if they were Ti dominant, particularly an LSI. It is very, very easy for me to see you as an LSIs conflictor, and quite out of place to think of you as an LSI's semi-dual. Furthermore, your blatant irrationality and EP-ness and Ne dominance would not sit well with an LSI, I don't think.
I assume SLIs will just be cheery around me anyway because I'm their dualBut it's interesting that you raise Fe-seeking, since the most direct way I can fight-conflict with an LSI is if they start trying to get an emotional reaction out of me, asI've said elsewhere.
oh no, you mentioned them! Gul was upset when they said he was a 7 (and something about Isha, I forget).
But really Gul, I can see you as a natural entertainer. Once you get over your depression you might find yourself filling such a role--even using your depression as kind of a schtick. 7w6 so/sx makes for a great entertainer. If you look at the long list of 7w6s exemplars, you'll see what I mean. (Bill Nye, Steve Irwin, Weird Al, etc.)
7s are my favorite people on the planet, although I prefer the alpha 7s. I should probably stay away from the IEE 7s for their sake
The saddest ESFj
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Maybe he argues with everything you say because you're constantly churning out idiotic shit like this?
If you've ever been an estj or intp in real life you would know gulanzon acts nothing like EITHER.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" isand not
Yeah I think I unconditionally accept ENFP for you now. Your obstinate nature remind me of my ESFP brother.
This seems like faulty logic doesn't it? If he reminds you of your ESFP brother, then why wouldn't you call him ESFP?
I personally have no opinion on the matter, gulanzon is ENXp until further notice to me.
Just his Fi I mean.
I confirmed it via dual-type theory: he's ENFp. No question about it. ENFp-INFp dual-type. I am certain of it because I had a discussion with a friend who VIs very strongly with him.
For reference:
She's settled on ENFp for her type, and so am I. It so happens, in fact, that she's settling down, apparently, with an ISTp. Team emphasis, she says, which for ENFp is the height of romance.
Lol, yes.
Yeah, he really pisses me off too. I think he's IEE.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I wrote that awhile ago, he still annoys me but I find him a lot more tolerable now. Dunno maybe I just got used to him or I'm able to have a soft spot for him since we both love rpgs? *shrug*
Reminds me of me. Take that how you will.
People saying he is alpha, especially ESE, are noobs.cool so i'm not insane
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
You are Alpha and an eternal noob.
The end is nigh
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