Originally Posted by
UDP
I'm an 8w9, I'll give you my prose on pros and cons
PROs
- Extremely loyal to inner circle of friends, (never cheated)
- Very willing to give time, energy, and resources to those it considers close to, or things that seem very worthy
- Very sexual + physical
- Enjoys seeing those he cares about succeed, be happy, and feel safe
- Stylish and aesthetic
- Take-charge
- When not in the negative states described below, self-assured and calm. A rock other people can depend on.
- Does not mind responsibility or working hard provided there is some positive benefit to it.
- Very much likes putting effort into things in order to get a high quality result (work, relationships, intimacy, hobbies, areas of interest, etc).
- Will always look for the truth, regardless of the implications of the truth - positive, negative, happy, unappealing - it doesn't matter. Fixation on truth. Sniffs out secrets, hidden ideas, tests loyalties and principles to examine and size up people, a good interrogator.
- Always looks at hard questions, not afraid to ask or be asked them. Not one to shy away from the truth *
- At best positively encourages, helps, and challenges other to become better and try harder at whatever they do. Enjoys leading, working together with others, and achieving worthy goals. When very healthy, magnanimous.
- General lack of concern for how things appear "to the public"; dislikes playing popularity contests, extremely so.
CONs
- Lusty, and possibly becoming lazy when too focused on lust and self indulgence. When very unhealthy, extremely lusty and opportunistic.
- Ethically problematic in terms of confusion and seeing a lack of relevance (but never cheated)
- When in states of lust or ethical confusion, needs to be around people with a strong moral center to calm and help direct things. Lack of such a person can result in problematic, dangerous, and negligent or self-centered behavior
- General insensitivity to other people, at times
- When relationship stability with inner circle members are threatened or in flux, can become paranoid or aggressive
- Even when healthy can step on people's toes without much realizing it.
- Dislikes subordinate positions in just about anything. Always giving advice on how things should be done, whether it is desired or not.
- Can be relentless in pursuit of the truth and interrogation tactics may lead to unpleasant levels of interaction with other people. Sometimes will not stop until someone submits, fully, or becomes enraged and extremely irritated. Ambivalent to the impact this has on relationships. Can be extremely cold at times.
- * While not one to look away from the truth, can be extremely arrogant and prideful in terms of its acceptance. Can be in situations where "I know this is the case, but...." the interpretation of things is skewed. This can be particularly problematic if other above negative situations are present. For the truth is still sought after, but personal convictions. This can spiral into really bad situations, primarily because the individual is so bent on the self image of "I seek the truth, I am tough, I deal with it", when, in reality, there is avoidance of the truth.
Finally, what my signature says is also relevant, for better or worse.