IEI?
Kendrick Lamar
IEI?
Last edited by suedehead; 09-13-2014 at 03:14 AM.
Bump.
Istp
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I'd say a definite Intuitive...he feels distant, and dreamy.
Hmm..Extroverted feeling. He has those IEI all-knowing eyes
bump.
IEI-Fe
4w3-5w6-8w7
I considered ILI, but he just has this light, dreamy quality I typically associate with IEIs. idk, I'd probably have to watch some interviews to completely rule it out.
4w3-5w6-8w7
Pretty clearly ILI. He has a very distinct preference for static ethicsover emotional ethics. He even has the characteristic ILI smirk in photographs.
Just wondering, what made you think ILI? I can sort of see it in the first interview but Im not sure I do in the Nardwuar interview, then again, I can't really see anything for him so I'm pretty neutral.Originally Posted by Radio
I can see the Ni. The concept tinkering in his lyrics lends itself to having strong N.
"Bet I put some new tires on a lighting bolt
Til' I crash into a poll(pole), like a right to vote(Raichu Volt)"
In that second line his words elicited a double meaning conceptually that was intentional. Typically people who put that much thought into things like this value Ni.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Si
ILI after seeing him in an interview.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Not Se ego, he seems to be an introverted irrational type.
Irrational; Ip; not against an introverted sensing ego typing what-so-ever. Especially after seeing that Nardwaur interview.
Lol, Narduwatever is annoying and so is his opening song but seems like he does his research. Kenny seems IEI > ILI to me, he seems pretty ethical to me rather than logical. Love his music too.
@wacey and @yeves, how do you guys see
Just for argument sake, ISTp also posses that dreamy eye look, that lazy peaceful eyes just as much INFp, sometimes even more. And what you don't think ISTp smile, joke around? And logic in ISTp isn't like full frontal in your face Te, I think you don't even see the Te creative unless they are up and moving around doing something, which if they are the chill out kind, rarely happens and when it does it only happens in brief periods of productivity where their personal projects get worked on followed by long interludes of doing absolutely nothing except vegging out (SLI style). INFp ISTp are super similar, both "lazy" from an outsiders perspective, although to them they wouldn't call themselves lazy, they both have their reasons. Kendrick has that self-possesed inner calm I associate with ISTps. He moves at a pace all his own. A steady metronome dah dah dah.
Just look at the way he reacts to Nardwuar's albeit transparent Fe. What impresses and surprises Kendrick is Nardwaur's pointed questions and his deep knowledge of the music that would interest Kendrick. Notice how Kendrick references his friends in the group every time Nardwaur says something surprising as well as literally pulls away in his body language as if to hide out from the attention lavished on him? This is complete ISTp habit I have witnessed time and again. They don't like having their personal world put on display in front of other people just like the INFp, however unlike the IFNp who might make a sort of game out of it, Kendrick responds in kind with Fi answers about his sentiments "My pops would enjoy this right here". Even his little story from Compton California get in the car story, just pure lazy blah Te explanation. His answers just arn't quick enough.
"Woooooaaah, thats craaaazy" Dude, I have heard several ISTps talk just like that.
When you are scoping out Si-doms, look for the cool guy that doesn't like to participate unless they are interested in it. And simple answers straight forward answers. Look how much Nardwaur had to work for this one? Every question is pulling teeth from Kendrick, who is clearly a declaring Renein style conversationalist.
I know, terrible evidence but with Kendrick its all about the vibes here. Argue for INFp and I might just believe you.
BTW bro, Nardwaur has been around the business since the mid 90s. He's known for his eccentric style and inexhaustible energy and questions. An old hat at the artist interview, once a regular feature on the now defunct Much Music channel in Canada.
I think I agree with the ISTp typing. He doesn't gravitate toward abstraction and he seems more invested sentimentally with his environment which seems more like a Delta ST thing. As I think Galen put it in a different thread is that INTps are pretty divorced from their reality. They'd rather talk about something that happened to them as an isolated event rather than how it affected them. Kendrick doesn't seem like that.
Also, in one of the interviews he was asked about a general trend in ghetto neighborhoods, and I didn't get a very strong Ni sense. Sort of like he hadn't given the subject a lot of thought, and he wasn't that good at coming up with an answer, which is unlike an Ni dom, especially when its the environment they have been exposed to.
SLI seems right
Last edited by Jake; 03-24-2017 at 09:08 PM.
Don't know but been meaning to listen to him.
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New album coming soon
bump
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
lead and subtype from the first interview (OP).
ILI
Last edited by Jake; 05-15-2017 at 12:40 AM.
ESE-Fi
And included as an exemplar:
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/ese-fi/
^haha
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Hi! I think Kendrick Lamar type is : ESFP-L
Myers-Briggs : ESFP-L (Limbic) Estimated Profile : (E) 86,25% (S) 67,5% (F) 92,5% (P) 98,75%
Big Five/OCEAN : SLUAN
Enneagram: 2w3(sw1w2) Enneatype 2 - Level 8
Socionics : SEE
Disc : (IS) Influencial, Steady
Don Riso Subtype : The Manic Compulsive
ESI
I've seen him typed a INFx 9w8. Gosh, can it please be true because we need a representation. Most famous 9w8s seem to be ISxPs or a token ISFJ.
IEI. He's Beta.
I think he's an Ethical type. Go to 11 min.
SLI-Te e9
+1
4D Ni
Gamma introvert. Nothing about him seems Beta.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
I think K.Dot is EIE
Bump. Is he ILI? He has an inexplicable hatred for Drake (ESE)
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