Alpha Music Thread

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-13-2008, 05:20 AM

No no Bionicgoat! Ignore him!! Feel the ways of the force!! Stay strong, young padowyn.

**JRiddy** · 05-13-2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by bee

No no Bionicgoat! Ignore him!! Feel the ways of the force!! Stay strong, young padowyn.

It's all the same alpha team, Bee. Theoretically, an Ne-ILE should be better friends to you than another SEI anyways.

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-13-2008, 10:31 AM

Oh yeah1?!?!!!!1

Where's my hug then1?!?! Huh?!!! HUH?!?!!?

*crosses arms*

**JRiddy** · 05-13-2008, 06:31 PM

Back to the idea of alpha music...

Check out this fresh little ditty:

**Logos** · 05-13-2008, 10:45 PM

New Pornographers - "Sing Me Spanish Techno"

**Wynch** · 05-18-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Subterranean

This Goldfrapp song and video are particularly Alphaish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So93Iny2HWI

Originally Posted by chopin

I don't think these kind of upbeat, "let's all grouphug" songs are Alpha. I felt like ending the life of that guy in the white suit jumping around.

I totally agree with Chopin. I'd probably scream if I was forced to listen to something like that for any extended amount of time. Perky songs drive me nuts. I prefer something a little edgy, even edging on discordant. It appeals to the chaos of my mind and gives me something fun to do with Ti.

**Mr Saturn** · 05-18-2008, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by bee

That sounds like if Jazz Jackrabbit had a sad. I like it

You have made my day.

Jazz Jackrabbit was amazing. Spaz in the second was insane.

**Mediator Kam** · 05-18-2008, 08:41 PM

Generator by Foo Fighters always makes me happy, the rhythm at times is so

, and the soft lyrics make me smile, it's like

.

**Mr Saturn** · 05-18-2008, 08:56 PM

The ultimate Alpha song?

**JRiddy** · 05-18-2008, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn

The ultimate Alpha song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhwufCg7THM

That's a cool song. Although the concept of an "ultimate" song is relatively foreign to Alpha, IMHO, because "ultimate" comes from the Latin word ultima, meaning "end, last". And this is not an Alpha-friendly concept. Haha but I'm getting all semantic now...

Actually, I recently thought of a highly speculative relationship between the four (classical) qualities of music and Alpha elements:

Harmony -
- Harmony is the relationship between pitches that, although different, create the impression of a single, more complex sound.
- Though it seems to happen at a "single" point in time, harmony is decidedly dynamic, as it deals with the relations of waves (which necessarily happen over time) to each other.
- It is also an "external" relationship, because it deals with the perception of events happening concurrently, and related to one another.
Melody -
Rhythm -
Interest and Variety -

(To be continued, revised, or dismissed later as hogwash...)

**Mediator Kam** · 05-18-2008, 09:48 PM

riddy wtf where do you get this stuff.

It would take me about a day to write that post.

**Elro** · 05-18-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by JRiddy

Actually, I recently thought of a highly speculative relationship between the four (classical) qualities of music and Alpha elements:

Harmony -
- Harmony is the relationship between pitches that, although different, create the impression of a single, more complex sound.
- Though it seems to happen at a "single" point in time, harmony is decidedly dynamic, as it deals with the relations of waves (which necessarily happen over time) to each other.
- It is also an "external" relationship, because it deals with the perception of events happening concurrently, and related to one another.
Melody -
Rhythm -
Interest and Variety -

(To be continued, revised, or dismissed later as hogwash...)

I can see it.

**Gilly** · 05-18-2008, 11:32 PM

Talking Heads

**JRiddy** · 05-18-2008, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Elro

I can see it.

Thanks...but it's speculative, and certainly incomplete. I actually think the harmony/melody distinction is a good metaphor for Si/Ni though.

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-19-2008, 09:14 AM

Me Likie

**Rubicon** · 05-19-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by JRiddy

Actually, I recently thought of a highly speculative relationship between the four (classical) qualities of music and Alpha elements:

Harmony -

Harmony is the relationship between pitches that, although different, create the impression of a single, more complex sound.
Though it seems to happen at a "single" point in time, harmony is decidedly dynamic, as it deals with the relations of waves (which necessarily happen over time) to each other.

But that's just a technicality isn't it? Harmony seems to be a static concept to me. I think melody is more Si, because it's definitely dynamic, and relies on the relations between tones for its effect.

Originally Posted by JRiddy

Melody -

Why Fe? IMO, you can only see Fe in the performance and interpretation of the music.

**dbmmama** · 05-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by JRiddy

That's a cool song. Although the concept of an "ultimate" song is relatively foreign to Alpha, IMHO, because "ultimate" comes from the Latin word ultima, meaning "end, last". And this is not an Alpha-friendly concept. Haha but I'm getting all semantic now...

Actually, I recently thought of a highly speculative relationship between the four (classical) qualities of music and Alpha elements:

Harmony -
- Harmony is the relationship between pitches that, although different, create the impression of a single, more complex sound.
- Though it seems to happen at a "single" point in time, harmony is decidedly dynamic, as it deals with the relations of waves (which necessarily happen over time) to each other.
- It is also an "external" relationship, because it deals with the perception of events happening concurrently, and related to one another.
Melody -
Rhythm -
Interest and Variety -

(To be continued, revised, or dismissed later as hogwash...)

cool correlations.

(i'm stuck in suburbia, at home with 4 kids, wondering why i was such a misfit in thinking like this about things. thank god i'm not alone.)

my sis is a great singer. soprano, operetic. when we sing together, she sings melody, me harmony and i tap the beat. drums are my fav instrument.

my sis and hubby are like "just be in the moment and enjoy the song already." and i'm "but analyzing it is part of what i do when enjoying the song."

love
kj

**Logos** · 05-19-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by JRiddy

That's a cool song. Although the concept of an "ultimate" song is relatively foreign to Alpha, IMHO, because "ultimate" comes from the Latin word ultima, meaning "end, last". And this is not an Alpha-friendly concept. Haha but I'm getting all semantic now...

Actually, I recently thought of a highly speculative relationship between the four (classical) qualities of music and Alpha elements:

Harmony -
- Harmony is the relationship between pitches that, although different, create the impression of a single, more complex sound.
- Though it seems to happen at a "single" point in time, harmony is decidedly dynamic, as it deals with the relations of waves (which necessarily happen over time) to each other.
- It is also an "external" relationship, because it deals with the perception of events happening concurrently, and related to one another.
Melody -
Rhythm -
Interest and Variety -

(To be continued, revised, or dismissed later as hogwash...)

Have you read the WikiSocion page on Music?

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-22-2008, 10:06 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XVB1UBSe7fY

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-22-2008, 10:14 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qSLvcJ4I1mw

**hellothere** · 05-22-2008, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Kamangir

Generator by Foo Fighters always makes me happy, the rhythm at times is so

, and the soft lyrics make me smile, it's like

.

The rythmn is so

? How so? Is it the variety?

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-22-2008, 10:35 AM

An Aussie classic.

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-22-2008, 10:41 AM

**Khola aka Bee** · 05-22-2008, 10:46 AM

Ok, I will shut up with my emo self now.

*sulk*

**Mediator Kam** · 05-23-2008, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by hellothere

The rythmn is so

? How so? Is it the variety?

The variety and interest it holds in me, xD.

**Ms. Kensington** · 05-23-2008, 07:59 AM

confusing

i think i am not used so much to hanging out with alpha sfs.

I find Kelis music to be ISFp and gwen stefani to be ISFp as well. a flurry of creativity, sensual impressions and expressiveness. I also felt ludacris to be ENTp. maybe im looking at the temperament energy.

more alpha NT: Talking heads i agree with gilly

i agree that i consider lots of looping or electronic sounds, especially with some playfulness in it to be Ne and depending on the liberties taken with the melody, Ti/Fe.

i agree with jrid. i think melody is more Fe because it's the changes in the tone that carry vibe. *shrug* i always associate Fe with a grainy/gritty sound too. as ive said many times before, Bono's voice to me has the quality of Fe. you can hear it in many other singers most often blues guys.

**Mr Saturn** · 05-23-2008, 08:13 AM

Alpha Music with a ton of Ne?

**hellothere** · 05-23-2008, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn

Alpha Music with a ton of Ne?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8tFq...eature=related

I'm not really sure what Ne is in music, but sounds like there Si + Fe there to me, the melody is sweet and comfortable and the chord changes are emotive (in a comfortable way, not in a dramatic way)

**Mr Saturn** · 05-23-2008, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by hellothere

I'm not really sure what Ne is in music, but sounds like there Si + Fe there to me, the melody is sweet and comfortable and the chord changes are emotive (in a comfortable way, not in a dramatic way)

I always imagine myself fighting and endless army of little pixel beasts with nothing but courage and honor.

I think this is due to an over exposure of computer games during my youth though.

That and my lack of knowledge on how Ne can be found in music (or any function) makes that post pretty irrelevant. In fact, the only reason I posted it was because I love that song, that band and dammit that's what Alphas do.

**Wynch** · 05-23-2008, 01:45 PM

Ne music would probably have a lot of things going on. Lots of things to think about. And lyrics that, to most, would appear completely random, but where we can make some obscure connections and find a meaning in it.

**normal** · 05-23-2008, 03:26 PM

I think this song is very Alpha (and suicide).

R.I.P. BTW.

**Mr Saturn** · 05-23-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by normal

I think this song is very Alpha (and suicide).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe5p1BXNCQM

R.I.P. BTW.

Interesting, I used this song in my short film.

**normal** · 05-23-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn

Interesting, I used this song in my short film.

That's cool, any chance to look that short film? (Im an amateur short filmmaker BTW).

**Mr Saturn** · 05-23-2008, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by normal

That's cool, any chance to look that short film? (Im an amateur short filmmaker BTW).

Yeah, I just made a thread of it.

It was a no budget short film so it might not compare to your stuff.

Creepy-bg · 05-23-2008, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by mn0good

Ne music would probably have a lot of things going on. Lots of things to think about. And lyrics that, to most, would appear completely random, but where we can make some obscure connections and find a meaning in it.

like this?