Socionics Beta types Examples

[darya]

Where are the Delta values?
I don't see him expressing Te HA, for instance.

Whereas I see many points hinting at Se HA.

Ewan driving cross-country is pretty much him emulating the interests of the club and qualities of his Dual, LSI. (LSIs are commonly into either cars or motorcycles, which is an ST interest: "Very typical examples of groups formed mainly of members of this club are groups of car enthusiasts (...).") Driving cross-country like that is not Si-seeking at all, but rather Se HA. Ewan likes to engage in forceful action in good doses, while neglecting personal comforts ("(...) to bike 20,000-miles, cross 12 countries and 19 time zones in just 115 days") and having a humanitarian, Fe valuing goal in mind ("Ewan and Charley also helped to raise awareness for the vital UNICEF projects they visited along the way.")


IEE, being Si-seeking, generally would shy away from such potentially exhausting, and uncomfortable adventures.


Then, how Ewan talked about "having something to wear" also ties in with Se HA:


P.S: Quotes are by Golihov.

I really disagree with your way of typing - it's waaaay to literal. It's not like IEE's never dress catchy, are ambitious or do anything that is uncomfortable. So every achieving, successful person is Se HA ? And that's completely besides the point of Ewan's type. My simple opinion is that he strikes me as IEE, nothing more than that - that's why I didn't quote you If he'd be Beta, he'd be IEI-Fe imo.

Edit: he isn't IEI. IEE confirm and final.

[Sol]

do you know his subtype?

There are no subtypes in normal Socionics, so I don't use them as think as heresy. Also there are several subtypes hypotheses: by Gulenko, Talanov, Filatova, etc.

[Anglas]

I agree with SisOfNight, Ewan McGregor without a doubt is beta nf.

[Rebelondeck]

There are no subtypes in normal Socionics,..............

Subtyping is another example of bottom-up engineering - plug the holes. There're obvious weaknesses in current theory - but two wrongs don't make a right. We need to go back to basic system design.........

a.k.a. I/O

[Olimpia]

I really disagree with your way of typing - it's waaaay to literal. It's not like IEE's never dress catchy, are ambitious or do anything that is uncomfortable. So every achieving, successful person is Se HA ? And that's completely besides the point of Ewan's type. My simple opinion is that he strikes me as IEE, nothing more than that - that's why I didn't quote you If he'd be Beta, he'd be IEI-Fe imo.

Edit: he isn't IEI. IEE confirm and final.

Fair enough. I was trying to make people see how there is a "backup" to my typings, that I am not typing people purely by my impressions of them. I've been accused of doing the latter before.

I am wondering why you think he is IEE? You just "feel" like he is?

[Sol]

Subtyping is another example of bottom-up engineering

"Subtypes" are speculative additional traits which were voluntary linked to Jung's types. There is no need to call it "subtypes", as it's just another typology. As any human have many traits besides Jung's type, you may choose from a million "subtypes" systems and to develop own ones.
It's not resonable to use hypotheses which are far from Jung until they are experimentally proved. There are a lot of different ones appeared during decades of Socionics gone public.

[darya]

Fair enough. I was trying to make people see how there is a "backup" to my typings, that I am not typing people purely by my impressions of them. I've been accused of doing the latter before.

I am wondering why you think he is IEE? You just "feel" like he is?

Yeah, basically. I was watching a movie with him the other day (can't remember the title) and he played some Beta NF character for sure (the whole movie was very Ni), but my impression of him isn't such. If I'm wrong, my bad. The point was just that no matter his type I'm allergic to typings by quadra values and intrapersonal relations, but I said it so many times already I'm just going to give up now : ) I usually prefer if people just state their opinion, because unless somebody really deeply logically dissects something in terms of IE's (Myst for example or some other logical Ti type), I see the attempts as amateur and unreliable (that goes for me too, btw : )

[Sol]

I'm allergic to typings by quadra values and intrapersonal relations

Then you refuse basics of Socionics. The common reason for this are often wrong typings, when basic theory does not work as should. The secondary reason are valued functions of your type, as analysing IR impressions uses mostly Fi and Ne.

> really deeply logically dissects

99% of such is ambiguous speculations and play with smart words, which have magical effect on naive F types.

[Sol]

Vladimir Kulich - ESTP [1:19]

[Sol]

Hinrik Olafsson - ESTP

[Beautiful sky]

I know that she talks a lot because she's IEI

She's a bit dramatic


"it's so much, it's soon much, it's ssssssoooo much"

When I watch this video I'm reminded of why the socionics descriptions say that IEI are vaguely reminiscent of EII and how the IEI has a face of an angel. They do @Starfall <3

It's a 12:30 minute video about the same thing lol

I would just say "I love you, be nice to each other."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tifRNT4afbg

Does not compare to my somberness lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtG2Y0G-a8g

[Beautiful sky]

or SEI

IEI

[maniac]

[Beautiful sky]

she's married to enfj????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__7KZwQ0JlY

[maniac]

she's married to enfj????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__7KZwQ0JlY

He seems like an introvert. But ethical yea.
The girl reminds me of my mom.

[Sol]

Ricardo Montalban - ENFJ (on 2:11)


Laurence Luckinbill - ESTP


Alycia Debnam-Carey - INFP

[Beautiful sky]

We served the community meal today in honor of my father's passing. We invited my brother in law's two friends. He's LSI type and his two friends are EIE and SLE. I was so pleasantly surprised since I had never met them before. Here I snuck a picture of her as I sat on the other side of the table. She was looking so nice. My hair was unkempt and I looked frumpy She was dressed nicely, every stand of hair in the right place. She wore a black belt with her pants that matched her shoes and purse. My shoes were grey, my skirt blue and top black as black is customary to wear. Also, I didn't wear a purse and I kept looking at her admiring the way she sat in that contained form kind of naturally dignified form. She let people who knew her approach her while I was up and hugging people and walking the room and loving on people.


I offered her and her SLE friend my business cards and I profiled them. I explained them about Socionics and my business and asked them to look for me when they are ready to find a match.




Look at her OMG

[Sol]

Kate Mulgrew - ESTP

[huiheiwufhawriuhg]

What about Lzzy Hale from Halestorm?

She's Se+Ni valuing extrovert for sure, could be gamma though.

[silke]

Kate Mulgrew - ESTP

LSE - major Si presence in every movie and series she's in.

[silke]

We served the community meal today in honor of my father's passing. We invited my brother in law's two friends. He's LSI type and his two friends are EIE and SLE. I was so pleasantly surprised since I had never met them before. Here I snuck a picture of her as I sat on the other side of the table. She was looking so nice. My hair was unkempt and I looked frumpy She was dressed nicely, every stand of hair in the right place. She wore a black belt with her pants that matched her shoes and purse. My shoes were grey, my skirt blue and top black as black is customary to wear. Also, I didn't wear a purse and I kept looking at her admiring the way she sat in that contained form kind of naturally dignified form. She let people who knew her approach her while I was up and hugging people and walking the room and loving on people.

I offered her and her SLE friend my business cards and I profiled them. I explained them about Socionics and my business and asked them to look for me when they are ready to find a match.

Look at her OMG

she kind of looks like @Pole Ninja

[silke]

Ariane Labed - LSI-Ti sx/sp (she reminds me of myself a bit)

[Sol]

Karen Gillan - INFP

[Sol]

Anzhelika Hayen - ISTJ

[wacey]

Karen Gillan - INFP

Alpha, both of them.

[lynn]

karen gillan seems EIE. Ej > Ip

[Pole]

she kind of looks like @Pole Ninja

This is exactly how I dress.

[Sol]

INFJsuccess4ever - ISTJ


Tom Davison - ENFJ

[silke]

Vishen Lakhiani - SLE-Se 3w4 "warmside" so/sp

[suedehead]

Chicharito - SLE>Se-LSI






Alexis Sanchez - SLE

[suedehead]

Luis Miguel - Ti-SLE

[suedehead]

Gucci Mane - Se-SLE

[suedehead]

ASAP Rocky - Ti-SLE

[suedehead]

Alistair Overeem - SLE

[maniac]

ASAP rocky is N for sure.

[silke]

found this weird IEI-Fe sx/so guy - Gregory O'Gallagher (Kinobody) - http://www.vice.com/read/i-spent-a-m...ness-celebrity

[flames]

ASAP rocky is N for sure.

lol

[Sol]

Kinobody - E
ASAP Rocky - N
Danny Brown - "weird" INFP

[maniac]

Chicharito - SLE>Se-LSI

Looks like a little kid

[DEAD]

Looks like a little kid

He's like 30 haha.

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