I wish I could die so I wouldn't have to bear the pain

[Misfit]

I can't bear the pain any longer. I have some things keeping me going, and I overall don't want to die, but I know I'm better off dead. But suicide is a major sin in islam.

[Squirrel]

Every time I see a Muslim Facebook friend expressing their wish to die, there is one thing that goes through my head: let's suppose you die, are you prepared for what comes after death?

[Adam Strange]

Every time I see a Muslim Facebook friend expressing their wish to die, there is one thing that goes through my head: let's suppose you die, are you prepared for what comes after death?

Good point. Allah promises that men will have 72 virgins, but not which gender they are.

https://viruscomix.com/page462.html

[Squirrel]

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "None of you should wish for death because of a calamity befalling him; but if he has to wish for death, he should say: "O Allah! Keep me alive as long as life is better for me, and let me die if death is better for me.' "

حَدَّثَنَا آدَمُ، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا ثَابِتٌ الْبُنَانِيُّ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ لاَ يَتَمَنَّيَنَّ أَحَدُكُمُ الْمَوْتَ مِنْ ضُرٍّ أَصَابَهُ، فَإِنْ كَانَ لاَ بُدَّ فَاعِلاً فَلْيَقُلِ اللَّهُمَّ أَحْيِنِي مَا كَانَتِ الْحَيَاةُ خَيْرًا لِي، وَتَوَفَّنِي إِذَا كَانَتِ الْوَفَاةُ خَيْرًا لِي ‏"‏‏.‏

Sahih Bukhari , hadith no 5671

[Squirrel]

Good point. Allah promises that men will have 72 virgins, but not which gender they are.

1- There is not even a single strong hadith that specifies the number of Houris

2- When the Qur’an talked about them, speech is in the feminine form , and actually, some books, such as Fath al-Bari in commentary on Sahih al-Bukhari , and Al-Bahr al-Muhit in interpretation of the Noble Qur’an , present a second opinion : the Houris are actually the believer women themselves, God recreates them as virgins and pretty .

[DogOfDanger]

I can't bear the pain any longer. I have some things keeping me going, and I overall don't want to die, but I know I'm better off dead. But suicide is a major sin in islam.

Physical pain or emotional pain?

[ChaosConductor6669]

I can't bear the pain any longer. I have some things keeping me going, and I overall don't want to die, but I know I'm better off dead. But suicide is a major sin in islam.

Suicide is a major sin in Christianity too; don't die, just ask yourself what you really want and go for it. To me, the only thing that exists after death is the abyss.

[Misfit]

I'm back. So I haven't died. Just putting it out there.

[khaki]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2z19QnEfQ

[End]

I can't bear the pain any longer. I have some things keeping me going, and I overall don't want to die, but I know I'm better off dead. But suicide is a major sin in islam.

As it is in Catholicism/Christianity. I can only say that I've been there myself and as I was about to jump in a carefully calculated angle to ensure I broke my neck and thus died most efficiently it hit me.

My enemies, my rivals, the people who hate me the most (demons most definitely included), etc. They all want me to kill myself. If I do this (my own neurons firing just in time to keep me from going through with it) I'll be giving the most evil and hated enemies of mine exactly what they want!!!!

Yeah no. Not doing my most hated and most reprehensible of my adversaries what they want. Living out of spite towards literal demons isn't a bad end goal for one's existence. Christ (and all the saints before and hence) did exactly that. I'd rather follow in the path of saints and saviors. Let the Great Enemy commit suicide. I'll live on if only to spite them!

[Hope]

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Matthew 11:28-30

[The Reality Denialist]

It may be illegal to commit a suicide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation

I wonder if they could face a capital punishment.

In North Korea it may result in a concentration camp for the whole family, though.

[ChaosConductor6669]

It may be illegal to commit a suicide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation

I wonder if they could face a capital punishment.

In North Korea it may result in a concentration camp for the whole family, though.

People just can't go around destroying government property in any civilized society.

[BrainlessSquid]

Watch Eckhart Tolle's videos. That helped me a lot go through pain in the past.

[Misfit]

Was having a bad struggle with limerence and PTSD, but I'm working on it in therapy, and by focusing on my goals, and my own self improvement and self care. Also, chatgpt sure is one hell of an assistant. Might even be willing to call it an AI therapist. But not quite. It's not quite at the level where it would replace a human psychologist or therapist, but in some ways its more useful, in that it is always available, and free, and has enormous amounts of data, and is non-judgemental, and causes you to judge yourself when you think you've fooled the AI, although I suspect that's only with some socionics types, and people who don't have certain personality constructs like Machiavellianism. I've also decided school is not for me, at least not 4 year school. I'm going to trade school for 2 semesters, and then going straight to work. I've literally done only 1 class in 2 and half years after I got my associate's degree and tried to transfer from community college to a 4 year program. And that 1 class was also at a community college/junior college. I'm going to study something in the tech industry. Make a ton of money. Live a little (without haram). Then worry about women once I get my shit together. EDIT: Another help was the istikhara prayer. EDIT: Oh, that, and I got really religious. Based on the lunar calendar, and based on where you live, it's already eid ul fitr, which means ramadan is over. (The official day of eid starts on the 4th prayer of the day, at dusk, before the day of eid, on the last day of ramadan, so days start at dusk)

[aixelsyd]

Glad to hear you are talking with a therapist. Have you considered medication for the depression? I personally take 20mg citalopram daily and it has been a big help.
It is good to hear you are relying on your faith.
As for school, I have a four year degree but it hasn't made me much money. You probably will be better off learning a trade that is in demand.
Don't forget to ground yourself. Walking in nature, even barefoot, is said to help with grounding.
I am not sure if you are familiar with Rumi and his poetry, but he was of the Sufi mystic tradition of Islam and is much beloved worldwide.

[Hope]

I can't bear the pain any longer. I have some things keeping me going, and I overall don't want to die, but I know I'm better off dead. But suicide is a major sin in islam.

https://youtu.be/_XiMqXbg4Tc?si=qTxq4Qn1650x85d8

[Braingel]

You wanting die is a lie in that people aren’t static in feelings.. So right now, you wish to die… In the last, you have at some point wished to live, and once you realize this bias and separate present mishaps and assuage pain, you will go on to live future times where you wish to live, even if you wave back into times you want die…

[Braingel]

16T doesn’t let me edit (it acts up sometimes and does of this).. Last is intended be past..

Your pain is valid and seen.. But this doesn’t make you wanting die a fixed mean… You will have gone on in this very day I speak, and the day you had even of this written, having moments in living where you wanted live. Even if not conscious, you’re fed yourself and drank water that very day… Self-preserving of life actions. What I believe and what would be true, is that at times, your conscious wishes die as a coping mechanism to avoid pain that you cannot yet ameliorate, lacking perspective, place and what needs (be it skills, relations, or comforting actions or places) to sever that need.. As you’ve developed this outlook from having needs unmet in some fashion— pain relief being one, but that’s symptomatic of what causes pain in of first places.

These things will come at their own time, but it’s a matter of patience. They may not lend as fast as you would imagine. This takes inner work paired with action that comes from inner understanding to more accurately meet this need..

[Braingel]

An idea I just thought of, would be to make characters out of your emotions and their time frame, as different people, maybe having dialogue, making some story of it.. As I feel this idea I just thought of, would make aware of more bias and give simultaneous catharsis..

[Braingel]

Or rather, that day* you wrote that, and likely many moments in time since, you had wanted die… But you don’t “wanna die”. You want die in moments, and there are many times this recent at least unconsciously, and definitely throughout other tines in life prior trauma, you wanted life and have preserved self to do so.

[Braingel]

“Wanting die” would be someone who has their entire life— as a static outlook wanted death. This is no human. No one wants die, a body is programmed to live, as is its mind. There are moments people take that result in their own death, this doesn’t mean they wanted die, they gave into the illusion time would wash away, as much as time itself is illusory..

I cannot promise any betterment in your life at this time, but what you can be sure of is life, coming in waves as it orbits and repeats, will always give you good times as well.. These are worth loving for, for your own soul evolution. You cannot say they aren’t worth it, when you’ve not yet felt and been in this future.. You can pull the future now into the present and life as if it has come, intrapsychically. You don’t have to live interpersonally if that into much, just withdraw away then, as much as allows from your own environment..

Only when needs from an environment aren’t met, does death exceed the consecutive moments one can be in a phase.. Needs can be met if ways find will, which is hard, as I have quite a poor volition and exertion of force.. And live in my own intra self… But there are ways and sometimes things come without action, if one aligns inward enough to where they can catch when it falls in..

[necrosebud]

“Wanting die” would be someone who has their entire life— as a static outlook wanted death. This is no human. No one wants die, a body is programmed to live, as is its mind. There are moments people take that result in their own death, this doesn’t mean they wanted die, they gave into the illusion time would wash away, as much as time itself is illusory..

I cannot promise any betterment in your life at this time, but what you can be sure of is life, coming in waves as it orbits and repeats, will always give you good times as well.. These are worth loving for, for your own soul evolution. You cannot say they aren’t worth it, when you’ve not yet felt and been in this future.. You can pull the future now into the present and life as if it has come, intrapsychically. You don’t have to live interpersonally if that into much, just withdraw away then, as much as allows from your own environment..

Only when needs from an environment aren’t met, does death exceed the consecutive moments one can be in a phase.. Needs can be met if ways find will, which is hard, as I have quite a poor volition and exertion of force.. And live in my own intra self… But there are ways and sometimes things come without action, if one aligns inward enough to where they can catch when it falls in..

I don’t think wanting to live and wanting to die cancel out each other, one can want both which is where the ambivalence
comes in

we all die eventually anyway so there’s almost no point in fearing/being put off by death idk