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Hi all, I'm new in Socionics, so... let's try!
Block1:
1. General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean?
When I think about a general rule, and I start to apply it on concepts -> general to specific
When I start to analyze how something work, I look at hoe it specific work, and I dicover the general rule -> specific to general
2. What does “logical” mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view?
Logical is something that explains well cause-effect relationship. My understanding is the animus of something (a person, a theory). Usually, isn't perfectly allineate with the common view.
3. How do you explain fractions on the dial of the clock?
A circle divided in 4 parts. Each part 15 minutes.
4. What is a rule? What rules you must to follow?
A rule is something that explains rationally a natural process or an artificial one. If you can understand them you know what will happen, so you can decide which one follow and which not without hurting yourself.
5. What is hierarchy? Do you need to follow it? Why or why not?
Hierarchy is a pyramid with someone that leads on the top. Everyone has a level under the leader, and the level is usually linked to a role. I need to follow it if I work in a team, and for me it's not a problem for me is not a problem as long as the commander gives me a place where I can express my skills. It's good to follow it because there is order in the crew. The only reason that can push me to unfollow hierarchy is to be in a role too much strict for my capabilities.
6. What do you think of instructions? Do you use them? Could you write an instruction manual?
Instructions are a good thing if they explain how cause-effect are related, in a direct and clear way if possible. I like steps that summarize instructions. I can write an instructions manual, but usually I don't use it so much... I try to figure out by myself how something work. If I need to, I use it.
7. Please explain: “Freedom is in complying with the laws, but not in ignoring the laws”? Do you agree with the statement? Why?
Yes, I agree. But lawas have to be just, that is different from equal. I can't judge at the same someone that had stolen to eat and someone that had stolen to gain 1 million dollars. Ignoring laws usually leads to be not just with someone, so it's bad. This, speaking about good laws, that are made for all the people, not laws self made to gain some personal benefits.
8. Tell us how consistent are you?
I'm consistent in my beliefs.
9. What is a “standard”? Why do people need it?
Standard is something that helps you to categorize and define something (a product, even a person). People need it to understand is something has specific qualities. I use it to orientate myself through choices to take better tools to accomplish my goals.
10. You need to put in order your home library. How do you feel about this activity? How will you approach this task?
I'm in a neutral mood. I will start to take off books from shelves, I put them all together. I will start to organize them on sections, thriller, fantasy, etc, from the best to the worse. Maybe I will take off ones that I dislike, so I can buy something new. I will sell again the ones that I don't want anymore.
Block 2
1. What is work in your opinion? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters where you can distinguish whether you can do this work or not?
Work is an activity that helps you first to gain and eat, and then, if you are lucky, to express yourself. Luck doesn't mean that you shouldn't apply yourself to have your dream-work, only that sometimes life forces people to do something that they don't like to survive. People go to work to gain money, to gain power, to do something that let them pride of themselves. Usually I know in which field I'm good and in which I suck, but I learn always and I like to improve my skills, so I will try anyway (knowing well if will be a failure or not, but knowing that I could change the result, too).
2. Is there any correlation between quality and quantity? Tell us if or how the price depends on quality?
Today, shouldn't be, because of machinary work. For Artisan, obviously yes. A quality work requires high skills, usually long time and good tools, and materials. This has a cost.
3. How do people determine the quality of work? How do you determine such quality? How well you can determine the quality of any purchase, do you pay any attention to it?
I don't know, maybe with standards? I determine quality considering how well this product help me to accomplish my goal. I search always a good product for what I want to obtain.
4. How do you feel if you didn’t finish some work? Does it ever happen? What are the reasons?
I usually finish my works, but because of my lazyness can happen that I don't. I feel guilty.
5. What is “interesting work” for you? Please explain in detail.
A work that let me discovery new things in scientfic fields (chemistry, physics, medicine) and that allow me at the same time to achieve my personal goals in personal life (out of work field I mean). A work that serves a purpose it's a good one.
6. You go to the store and see something you’re interested in buying, there is a price tag on it. What parameters are you going to use to understand if it’s overpriced, underpriced, or priced correctly?
I check how much it costs in other shops and then I decide. If it's something made by an artisan, I will consider all is written in question 2.
7. When you work and someone tells you: “You don’t do it right.” What is your reaction?
Is someone more expert then me? I will hear him/her. Is someone that is counselling me? Ok, maybe I will check if that different point of view can be worth of consideration.
8. Right next to you there is a real professional. You always see that you can’t perform the way he does. Your feelings, thoughts and actions?
I will find my way. I can look at him and find a scheme to use like guideline, on which one I can shape mine. Obviously I will hide that I'm not so good like him/her (if I can). I don't want to admit that I'm less than someone else. I try to learn in the faster way.
9. When you have to ask someone else to help you with the task, how do you feel?
I should be sure that i can't really do it by myself... If I can't I will ask politely, and I will look at them to understand how I will do next time.
10. You need to build a pyramid, exactly like in Egypt. Your thoughts, feelings and actions?
Why a pyramid? I mean, is useful to build? It will give us benefits? If no, why the hell we can't build something more profitable? Anyway, ok. I will make it profitable for you. I think I will learn something to how to build it, asking to experts to help me. I will engage people that will work for me and experts. I will ask to someone interested in the pyramid to pay for me part of the bills, and I will ask money or stuffs to sponsors, too.
Block 3
1. Tell us what is beauty? Do you change your opinion about beauty? Does your understanding correlate with the generally accepted notion? What goes beyond the generally accepted notion?
Beauty is difficult for me to describe... because is a mental state before a emotional/physical one. I fall in love with minds and souls, before that with bodies, so... for me is something that let me feel surprised, free and involved. I think this is totally out from the general notion.
2. Describe, please, your understanding of a beautifully dressed man or a woman. What is the core of beauty? How do you explain what is beautiful to a person who has never heard about beauty before?
I would eplain like in question 1. I can appreciate a man well dressed, and I say 'he is beautiful' if I think so, but I haven't that emotion like when I see his soul and mind.
3. Is there a template of understanding what beautiful means for everyone to use? Is there such a term as “classical beauty”? If so, what is it?
I really don't know. I think something that is balanced and harmonious.
4. What is comfort? What is coziness? How do you create your comfort and coziness? How do others evaluate your skill in doing so? Do you agree with them?
... I never think about these things. So... boh. My comfort is a state of mind: I can stay on rocks but having skies on me and I feel ok. If I'm bad I can feel better eating something sweet or slighty alcholic. Others complaining me because I don't put them at ease physically, but the only thing that I'm good to do for them is cook... and not always I reach the result that I thought.
5. How do you pick your own clothes? Do you follow fashion? Why? Do you know how to select clothes for different types of figures?
I take what I like. I don't follow fashion. Because for me it's not important to. No, I need help in these stuffs.
6. How do you cook? Do you follow recipes? What others think about your skill?
I cook on the spur of the moment, putting stuffs together thinking about a result that I like. Or just to experiment. Yes, I can say I experiment a lot in kitchen. Others says that I never cook twice the same dish (and it's true). Even if I follow a recipe, it's never the same result because I tend to take instructions like guidelines and than acting on my own head.
7. Are you good at color patterns and mixing them and matching?
I think I'm pretty good.
8. If someone is telling you what is beautiful and what is not, what goes with what color and what is not, do you agree with this person?
Depends. What works for him/her, couldn't work for me.
9. Tell us how you’d design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself or trust someone else to do it? Why?
I imagine it first and then I do it. It's never the same of which one I had in my mindbut I will do by myself. Because I know I'm capable to do it, if the executive says to me 'it's not possible to realize' I will search with him/her a solution to reach the result that is closest to what I have in my mind.
10. How do you know if a person has bad taste? Could you give us an example? Do you always trust your own taste or do you seek opinions from others?
If I like it, is good. If I don't like it, is not. I trust my own taste, but I can seek opinion of others if I know that they are better than me and if they purpose to me something that I like.
Block 4
1. Can you line up human resources and make them do things? What methods do you use? Can you press people? If so, how does it happen?
I can be quite autoritarian. Being a woman, this was highly discouraged in me... my mom said that I have the power to let others feel stupid. I don't want to do this, it's only my way to teach them... so I learned how to do it in a polite way (roll eyes). I'm very direct in my way to communicate, now; but I try to don't press others too much or they can't resist to the pressure and will make a mess. So I push them till I see them in a comfortable mood, and then a little bit more, just to let them know how to deal with pressure. So they will learn.
2. What is incursion? How do you deal with this? Can you repulse? How easy can you do it?
An incursion is when you try to surprise your enemy, a fast and violent action to damage or take resources. I think surprise effect is all, but I never organized one. I think to be perfect depends by situation in situation. To repulse it, it's the same, I don't know how to do it practically, I think I will act basing on situation. It's a difficult to do it, I think. Or anyway, I perceive it in this way, depends by situation.
3. What does “my people” and “strangers” mean? When do “my people” become “strangers” and why?
Mmm I usually don't put people into these categories, but I think would be appreciated if you want to stay alive in a war situation. So... it depends by situation: enemies, allies, etc. Stay alive and all will go well.
4. Are there strategies of attack? Can you use them? When is it justified?
Yes there are, I can use them, but usually I use them only to defend myself. I think it depends by what do you mean. On a personal context, I want only to understand what's going on around me and then I will try to understand whats the best action that leads to the best outcome for me. Then I act keeping in my mind these infos, and adjusting myself at the last minute if something changes. No strict plans.
5. Do you think it’s ok to occupy someone else’s territory? In what situations?
It depends. I think that could be justified to defense (you or them) and to don't die if you are pressed by someone stronger.
6. What are the methods of volitional force? When is it most effective and in what situations?
I don't know. I think that is better giving them a goal, so they can gain strenght from it and they can decide better what to do. Hierarchy here is fundamental. Having a plan for emergency and let them know, too. It's effective quite always I think.
7. How do you protect yourself and your interests?
I try to don't let others know what I want and what is in my mind. Unless strictly necessary. And I try to gain informations by others.
8. Describe to us your behavior in the situations of opposition and if you have to use some force?
I suck to use force. I can confuse my enemy with my brain, but nothing more. I can speak about benefits and try to convince others to follow me, I try to seduce them showing them what they want, and I explain them why it's better to follow my line of action instead kill me (figuratively or not). I'm not always good to doing this.
9. Do others think of you as a strong person? Do you think you are a strong person?
I don't know about others. I'm not strong, I try to be logical and smart, if I can.
10. How do you understand if a person is strong? Are there any signs of a strong person? What is the core of any force? Why do people listen to one person, but not the other?
A person is strog when he or she is able to succeed in every situation, being always correct with him/herself. This isn't always easy, but I appreciate more someone that is coherent than someone that is ready to change side when he/she can. This means that the goal is important, but should be found a way that allow you to live with consequences of your choices... choices change yourself, be always careful to like who you will be. Just because you have to live with till your death. People follow who feeds their desire... everyone has a price. It's important to know what is... and then act on it. The core of any force is... what others think it is.
Block 5
1. What is boorishness? Does your understanding of it correlate with the generally accepted notion? How would you explain to a 10 year old child what boorishness means? How would you explain the same to an adult who does not behave ethically?
Boorishness is when you act without following social norms or ethics. Etichs is something that I identify with religion (idk why). My understanding of it more or less is correlating to the accepted notion. I would explain to the child how to be gentle and ethical, and boorishness would be the reverse. I would say to the adult to put him in the shoes of others and think at how could be being treated badly.
2. How would you improve the moral of the society?
I think that it's important to recover some moral values that we put into trash in name of progress... results are that now people are more on an anarchy line. This bad like in the past was bad to have a too much close society. Something balanced would be perfect.
3. Can you justify somebody’s bad behavior by thinking that he/she wasn’t taught how to do so?
Understand yes, justify no. How can he/she learn if I don't explain what is wrong?
4. Give us your understanding of love. Can you love and punish at the same time?
Yes. Not in a violent manner, but think at children, ok? If you let them do whatever they want, you don't want their good. So punishment sometimes is necessary.
Punishment has a different for in adult relationships. Adult aren't children, so I think that I should speak about action consequences instead of punishment. If I betray my spouse, I would expect a reaction (punishment). I disapprove violent reactions (murders, or physical violence) but I can understand if someone punish you with his/her absence, or distrust, or letting him/her feel the vacuum of the betrayed. People don't understand what have till they lose it.
5. Have you heard about the Southern hospitality? Everything is for the guest. There is also a German hospitality – the master of the house is always right. What method is the right one? Try to evaluate without the weight of any cultural aspects, traditions, nations etc.
Mutual respect over rules? No?
6. What is sympathy? When do you need to express it? When is it advised not to?
This for me was a difficult question for some reasons that I really don't know
I Think that it's because I understand people on a rational level before of a emotional one. This is my pity. Anyway, I think that the closest thing that I feel is to put myself in their shoes, and to try to fix their problem in some way. Not that I don't feel nothing, but I can't give a name at what happens (when happens) inside me in these circumstances.
7. Are there any norms of behavior in the society? Do you follow them? Do people always have to follow them? Why?
There are, but usually I don't follow them if I retain that I shouldn't. I try to don't hurt others, but I can't go against myself. Others should do the same, this is a win-win solution.
8. How do you know what attitude among people is right or wrong?
I don't know...
9 . What does moral mean? What is immoral? Does your understanding correlate with the others? How can you evaluate the correctness of your own understanding?
Like I've said, for some reason I link morality with religion. My understanding isn't linked to others. I evaluate the correctness of my own understanding searching facts, books of moral experts, and then I ask myself if I agree with them. If I don't, I search another point of view on the problem that put together my ideas and expert' ideas and facts. I search a different meaning in their words, or in facts, on in myself, and then I try to put together all, without trash nothing. Everything has to have a sense.
10. Somebody is giving you a negative attitude – what is your reaction? Could you show your own negative attitude toward someone else? If so, how? Could you give a person the silent treatment? How easily do you forgive people?
I forgive people easily, more or less. It depends by what they did. Usually I don't care about others, except if they are into my closest circle. Usually I give them the silent treatment, or I will be irreverent and sarcastic, or really angry and shout at them. It depends by what they say... I don't like when they say that I'm stupid or they don't recognize that I'm good in what I do.
Block 6
1. "Whole world does not cost one tear of child" – how do you understand this phrase? Do you agree with this opinion?
I don't understand, what is supposed to mean?
2. Is it acceptable to express emotions? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.
More or less, yes. Maybe don't show them if others can have a gain to this fact and put you in a bad situation (poker faceok it's a stupid example, but you can understand).
3. Can you use negative emotions? In what situations?
Anger, under stress. I don't 'use' my emotions... it's something that comes outside if I want to, or if I can't control them.
4. How do you express negative emotions? What does it look like? What do others think about it?
I haven't negative emotions, I have only anger. At least, with others. It's a violent outbrust that I can't control well. When I'm alone sometimes I cry, if I'm sad. But usually I don't understand why I'm in a mood, I need someone that helps me to go out the negative state (and I don't like to call people), usually I understand my mood writing a story with fictional characters and letting my mind imagine how them act. After that usually reasons of moods are clear, because I reproduce them on fictional characters.
5. Shallow emotions – what does it mean? Are there any other emotions?
I can't be insincere with emotions, or I don't use them or I can't control them. I'm very bad in this field.
6. What are right or wrong emotions?
You made categories! Really?
7. Can you change the emotional state of yourself? Of others? To what side – positive or negative?
No. To others maybe I can act in a way that I know please/annoy them. But it's something that I do, not that I feel. I know that this action has this effect, so...
8. What does it mean to “pour out your emotions”? How does it happen?
I don't know...
9. Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?
... I don't know how I feel internally, how can I check how to show it externally? Anyway, usually it doesn't happens.
10. Do you track what mood you are in throughout the day? Do you notice the mood of others?
No, I'm always in the same mood. No.
Block 7
1. Do you like surprises?
I have a neutral attitude to this. I usually can spot others conspirating. But tody with internet is more difficult.
2. Tell us how people change? How do you feel about those changes? Can others see the changes?
I like changes. If someone changes is still alive, is going somewhere and is learning. Changes are a good thing. Even the bad ones, if you can recognize that that change is wrong, you can learn from itTo change generally is difficult from ourselves, but can be easier if there are external pushings that help you. Like trying to overcome our fears staying out of our comfort zone.
About people... I don't think is a conscious process, 'tomorrow I will change!'. Is something that happens trough shocks, bad situations, faster... and through work, hardwork, slower. They change and reveal their inner self. You know, you can't see it when they finished, but when they are in the action, it's there that you can see it. Bit of souls spark
3. Is it true that whatever happens is only for the best?
I think yes. This not means that we shouldn't do nothing because 'the universe' will do anyway its job, but that when you did your best and things go anyway to their way... this was their way. I try always to think about how to understand what's the correct way, imagining cause-effect scenarios, etc... I do my best, what I think it's correct, and I look at how the situation changes... I try to stay close to my goal, and to act to reach it, but if I can't, I can't. There is a meaning in that outcome.
4. What do you think of horoscopes, fortune telling etc.? Do you believe in luck, lucky fortuity?
I don't believe in them.
5. Can you forecast events? Is it even real?
Everyone has eyes to see the world. If you look at cause-effect events, you can predict an outcome. It's real...? It depends. If it will happen, it's real. In other cases, it was real in my mind...
6. What is time? How do you feel time? Can you “kill” time? How?
Time is what we need to arrive at a goal, through cause-effect events. Now is made by past events and future events, because we make choices basing on what we want to be tomorrow. I feel it like a continuum, and sometimes I don't feel it at all, because I'm somewhere ahead, but I don't know where. I feel like we are on a spaceship, launched at breakneck speed toward something, and the only thing we can do is prepare ourselves to the impact. I don't kill time, I use it to improve my knowledge, or to test me.
7. Is it easy for you to wait for some important event? What if you don’t know when it is supposed to happen?
Yes, it's enough for me to know that it will happen. I will be more anxious if I don't know if it will happen for sure. I can overlook cause-effect events if I'm not sure, to make something to let it happen, or at least to try.
If I don't know when is supposed to happen, it's enough to know that will happen.
8. Do you need help creating forecasts and determining how something will end? Do you trust those forecasts?
Not usually... I mean, if others know the situation better than me, maybe. But usually I look at things and I'm almost sure to what expect from that. I can be wrong, but often I'm right. I trust myself, but I keep eyes well opened to see if something change, so the outcome changes. I'm not omniscient anyway.
9. Are you normally late? How do you react if someone is late?
I'm not late, and if someone is late I wait. Maybe I read something or I stay in my head, thinking about something that I need to solve, understand, or I daydream.
10. Imagine the situation where you agreed to meet with someone. Your feelings and actions: a) 20 minutes before the meeting starts, b) 5 minutes before the meeting starts, c) it is time for the meeting to start, but the person is not here, d) 20 minutes after the meeting start time and the person is not here, e) more time and the person is still not here…
a) I'm ok. Maybe sometimes I can think at worse, but I think always at worse, and I learned how to manage it. So, it's ok.
b) Daydream
c) Daydream
d) Daydream... I call him/her to know where they are, and then if he/she doesn't come, I will go to take an ice cream.
e) I will check again if he/she is ok, and I try to think about what's happened. I call him/her, if I can't receive a reply I can call people that know him/her, just to be sure that all is ok and that they don't need help. I try anyway to understand what's happened.
Block 8
1. Is there a meaning of life? In what? Is it the same for everybody?
I think there is one. I think that we born to do some actions that are strongly related to others, and to paint an image on the world, strictly invisible to our eyes, but meaningful to our lives. We can 'see' it if we pay attention enough to our lives and look at them in the right perspective. It's not the same for everybody in the sense that everyone is a unique creator of these invisible connections.
2. What should be done so people can be happy?
Happyness is not from outside, is from inside. What people should understand about themselves to be happy? I worked a lot on this aspect of me.
3. In the situations with a lot of potential and volatility will you trust your own guts, logically calculating everything or will you ask people you trust what should be done?
Guts and logically calculating, but first of all guts. I adjust my logic on them. If they aren't present (under stress it's difficult for me to recognize them clearly, I mean, are gusts) I follow my logic. People are my last chance.
4. When you meet a stranger, what can you say about him right away? How do you know what this person is all about? Does it take long to understand someone’s talents?
When I meet strangers I have impressions that I collect not consciously but that usually are right. It doesn't take too long to understand someone talents, unless this person is really introvert and doesn't say nothing and doesn't do nothing (it happened to me :/). I know what this person is about through my impressions, but usually after I met him/her I speak about him/her with my mom, and in this way my impressions are clearer and I can analyze them logically, too. To prove them.
5. Remember an interesting person and call out 5-6 qualities you think are interesting in him. What would make a person not interesting? Are you an interesting person? Why? What if someone calls you “boring” and “not interesting”?
Crafty, capable to succeed, to reach his goals; expert, complex, sure of himself, good man.
A person that isn't balanced between moral sense and looking too strictly at rules for me isn't interesting. A person too much self centered, or that doen't want to recognize others capabilities and cooperate.
I think everyone is interesting for someone else. They can call me whatever they think, I don't care.
6. What opinions, from people who know you, seem: 1) fair; 2) not fair; 3) hurtful; 4) strange.
1) well rounded, well-intentioned, dreamy, mind-absorbed, unattentive, honest, direct, logical, detached
2) harsh, I-know-all, selfish
3) not feminine
4) both rational and irrational at the same time...
7. Do you fantasize? What kind of fantasies do you have?
Yes. I fantasize about difficult situations and how I will managethem. These situations aren't 'real world ones' but are based on my book that I'm writing, so it's 'fantasy'... anyway, it's a book full of mysteries and hardly intricate. Anyway my mind is always active, even when I sleep, it's always full of problems to solve, of situation to evaluate, of fantasy books to write, of theories to understand...
8. What qualities should a person have to be successful and why?
knowledge, ambition, mantaining the situation fluid, courage, patience
9. What qualities can stop a person from being successful and why?
Too much focused on small details, pedantry
10. What is more important in life – to be a good person or be a successful one? Why? Is a good person always successful? If not, then why?
I think to be a good person. Because I know successful people and they are pretty... empty. They have all and they haven't no one to share their fortune with. And, if they have, a big part of time these people are insincere. I think that a good person is always successful, but you should look at successful under another perspective, that it's not to have money, power, etc, but to have skills and knowledge to face problems and succeed, a family that helps you, some friend, and a work that let you express yourself. Other things are more and superfluous in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Maritsa
Where the fuq is that from.
