FUCK RETAIL LOL. And fuck those soccer moms with nothing better to do but take their frustrations from their shit lives out on minimum wage slaves. I didn't laugh it off, I would stand there telling them exactly what the deal was, and of course the manager would come and tell them the same thing. It didnt take long in retail before I had a chip on my shoulder. I knew I wouldn't get fired for standing up for myself. I'm not going to let someone with no life talk down to me or disrespect me. Fuck that noise LOL. But I'm not cut out for retail obviously.
I was homeschooled so I spent a lot of time learning things that I liked most, but the set up was very classroom like and it lasted all day/night so fuck that too lol.
Are you a beta?
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Yep I'm IEI-Ni. I like your posts, they energize me.Are you a beta?
lol I might put this one in my sig for awhile.And fuck those soccer moms with nothing better to do but take their frustrations from their shit lives out on minimum wage slaves.
We got off on a bit of a tangent there, but you know, just trying to make things orderly and consistent =P
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Anyway, don't much like the idea of if you are X you can't do Y kind of thing because the reason behind it matters more than the behavior itself, and we're working with broad categories of people. You can say for example that on average a particular kind of animal lives 20 years, but that does not tell you exactly how long an individual animal will live, just gives you an idea. Same goes for types, you have averages for each type, but individuals vary from those. So, sure LSIs as a whole are more orderly and consistent, but you can't say LSIs always get good grades in school and SLEs don't, or anything of that nature. What matters for LSI vs SLE most is are you Ti-lead or Se-lead?
One quick and dirty way to check that is look at their kindreds - overall are you more similar to LIIs or SEEs? Even a very Se LSI will be more like an LII than an SEE due to the Ti-lead they share, and Se takes backseat to that. Especially true online where you can't really see Se in action. And even a Ti SLE is more like an SEE than an LII due to Se lead with the Ti taking the backseat for them. Other factors as well - the demonstrative/HA overlap, temperament and so on. It's not foolproof but it's a quick way to get an idea.
sle: uses logic to dominate environment
lsi: uses force to logically structure environment
sle is at rest when the environment is dominated by him. (only using logic to dominate)
lsi is at rest when his environment makes sense (only using force when something is out of line)
for sle power is the endgoal
for lsi making sense is the endgoal
a lsi will get mad when it doesnt make sense, doesnt necessarily care if controlled by someone else, as long as his supervisor makes sense.
a sle will get mad if he gets controlled, but doesnt necessarily care if he or his environment doesnt make sense
lsis are often 6 (want truth) or 1 (want perfection)
sles are often 8 (want power)
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lsi: force
sle: brute force
lsi: it needs to look like it makes sense.
sle: brute force
lsi: I'll work very hard until...
sle: brute force
This comparison guide is cool, the ESTp fits better than ISTj. Thoughts?
http://www.sociotype.com/tools/type-comparison/LSI-SLE
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
This is actually more of an SLE trait than LSI. SLEs have more access to Ne than LSIs and hence tend to be more optimistic. Often LSIs are quite pessimistic and worried about the future due to mobilizing Ni. This is a case where the naive Positivist/Negativist interpretation is flawed.
SLE
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@Slade
Any reason why, as opposed to LSI
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
I will say this which had me think the other day about extroversion and introversion. I feel worse when I'm by myself and talking to people and socializing energizes me. I hate being alone and try to avoid if possible.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
I could gather this from your questionnaire. It's clear that you feed off the outside world. I could write a few paragraphs about my reasoning. I have ideas about where the elements fit into Model A based on your answers but I've written a good chunk of posts already today. If you want a more detailed analysis with examples, I can do that - but as a very broad summation, it looks like you are much more focused on interacting with the world (Se) than understanding the world (Ti), which is shown based off your experiences and preferences for how to live, as well as your outlook.
Hey, feel free to PM me with any opinions about my type
Yeah, its a common occurrence for people to conclude they are introverts based off things like that. I'm having my own problems separating the two at the moment - but as far as your distinction on being energized around others, that's about as clear a distinction between intro and extro as there are.
Hey, feel free to PM me with any opinions about my type
You look like my LSI friend though
Again I'm not sure when I'll have time to come back to this later, but I'll post a bit in here too.
So what does being SLE mean to you?
I also get energy from interacting with others - this is some Fe thing, I believe. Apparently it's not the same kind of naturally maintainable energizing though as it is for SLEs - I've closely compared myself on this with an SLE once.
OK here's the different perspective
To me Pole is laid back in relating to other people but not laid back in her way of leading her life.
If I'm to report to someone else by the orders given then I would have to return to the base, no other option there*, or at least quite unlikely. If not reporting to someone else on this, and if I had enough of a quick overview, I'd go for capturing the enemy there. I actually don't need too many details to act in many cases. Consistency is important but I'm able to make the decision (in a very conscious way) to put lower-order (less strongly prioritized) rules aside (yeah this is pretty hierarchical) or whatever plans aside and go for some gain that's big enough to warrant it or for some other important reason. The point though is that I do have to make such a decision consciously, I'm not relaxed go-with-the-flow with this.
*: Unless maybe some EIE was there and showed me how I can get around that. Jk, I'm not sure EIE does this, but they'd be more able to see tricks about this, I'm sure.